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Re:Graphic: Methods That Have Been Tried to Stop the Leaking... by GFischer on Friday June 04, 2010 @08:22AM (#1404076)
My uncle (blacksmith/inventor) is pretty certain that step 1 (cutting the pipe) was a mistake, as he had a solution (which he e-mailed to BP, which of course ignored it) which involved the pipe (and a clamp).

OTOH he doesn't have data on the exact pressures and forces involved, so BP probably had far better information on which to act. (and it's far easier to be an armchair engineer!)

Re:Graphic: Methods That Have Been Tried to Stop the Leaking... by asmithmd1 on Friday June 04, 2010 @09:55AM (#1404274)
The pressure of the oil at the leak is 3500 psi.

It is coming out of a 20" dia pipe.

3.1415 * 10^2 * 3500 = ~550 tons of force, about the weight of a 200ft ship

Then throw in a gas/oil 2-phase fluid with different viscosities and varying temperature -- it is not an easy problem to solve

Some good technical info here: http://www.greendump.net/the-oil-drum/deepwater-oil-spill-th...

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Re:Graphic: Methods That Have Been Tried to Stop the Leaking... by asmithmd1 on Friday June 04, 2010 @11:25AM (#1404562)
The pressure at 5000 ft under the ocean is roughly 2000psi relative to atmospheric pressure. 3500psi is the difference between the oil pressure and the pressure at the sea floor.
Re:Graphic: Methods That Have Been Tried to Stop the Leaking... by GFischer on Friday June 04, 2010 @10:45AM (#1404422)
Thanks, I'm passing the link and the information to my uncle right now (and I'll ask him for the details of his proposed solution :) )
Re:Graphic: Methods That Have Been Tried to Stop the Leaking... by ck2 on Friday June 04, 2010 @10:52AM (#1404440)
I can't believe the DIY'ers really think BP is filing their submissions anywhere but the "circular file".

However sometimes when I watch the "oil cam" I secretly wish to see someone in some kind of DIY "iron man" deep-diving outfit suddenly appear and walk over to the pipe and start fixing it themselves, lol.

Re:Graphic: Methods That Have Been Tried to Stop the Leaking... by tocomment on Friday June 04, 2010 @09:06AM (#1404167)
Maybe BP should have crowd sourced this problem. Publish all of the data that its engineers have access to. Maybe even offer a prize for a working solution.
Re:Graphic: Methods That Have Been Tried to Stop the Leaking... by bitsoffreedom on Friday June 04, 2010 @12:24PM (#1404742)
Something like the Goldcorp Challenge maybe? http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/59/mcewen.html
Re:Graphic: Methods That Have Been Tried to Stop the Leaking... by anamax on Friday June 04, 2010 @09:41AM (#1404236)
Was his solution to crimp the pipe?

The pressure differential between the oil and the water is pretty low (20k barrels/day isn't that much for a pipe that large) so crimping wouldn't require much more energy than bending a pipe without any flow.

However, I don't know if there are ROV attachments that are strong enough and whether there was the required access.

The other problem is that a crimp probably won't result in a complete seal. I don't know if there was room for multiple crimps or their cumulative effect.

On the other hand, crimps would have reduced the flow while the relief well is being drilled.

The other problem with crimps is that they may make it impossible to do other things.