Why do developers who could work anywhere flock to the most expensive cities?

Re:Why do developers who could work anywhere flock to the mo... by anovikov on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @04:28AM (#14030596)

That is not a EU permanent residency permit. It is just for Cyprus. Cyprus is not even in Schengen, and this permit doesn't even allow free travel, you still need a visa to go even to Greece. It also gives no right to work or do any kind of business (even in Cyprus), i.e. it is against the goals of these people, it is mostly for retirees.

A 2-year residence permit which becomes permanent in 5 years is easy to get in any Baltic country, and it is a lot less restricting. That is, if you are too rich to work, but not rich enough to buy a passport. Otherwise you can get a permanent permit in Germany after 2 years of work which will give you full rights similar to U.S. green card, in all of the EU.

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Re:Why do developers who could work anywhere flock to the mo... by mfukar on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @05:26AM (#14030834)

Just as an aside, Cyprus is in the process of joining Schengen "soon", along with Romania, Bulgaria, & Croatia.

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Re:Why do developers who could work anywhere flock to the mo... by ferbivore on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @08:39AM (#14031890)

Romania and Bulgaria have been about to join Schengen any moment now for about a decade, and Cyprus is in a much less stable situation than either of them.

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Re:Why do developers who could work anywhere flock to the mo... by oblio on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @09:04AM (#14032110)

And Romania actually fulfilled all conditions for Schengen membership a few years ago... And it's still blocked from joining out of sheer spite, I guess?

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Re:Why do developers who could work anywhere flock to the mo... by anovikov on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @01:53PM (#14035427)

I think Cyprus will resist entering Schengen with all means available, and Greeks are known for their skill of protracting any negotiations indefinitely. So, not any time soon.

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Re:Why do developers who could work anywhere flock to the mo... by mfukar on Wednesday April 05, 2017 @02:49AM (#14040247)

Why? Cyprus has nothing but to gain from joining Schengen. Where does Greece come in? EU citizens can already travel freely in Cyprus [1], so why would you say GR doesn't want Cyprus in Schengen?

[1] http://www.cyprusembassy.fi/main/index.php?p=Consular_Sectio...

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Re:Why do developers who could work anywhere flock to the mo... by ranit on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @08:11AM (#14031662)

Schengen is for free movement. It does not give you work permit.

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Re:Why do developers who could work anywhere flock to the mo... by mfukar on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @09:13AM (#14032183)

I don't think I implied otherwise.

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Re:Why do developers who could work anywhere flock to the mo... by StavrosK on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @04:41AM (#14030655)

Do you need a visa to go to Greece? Cypriot citizens can definitely travel to Greece with just their ID cards, but I'm not sure about immigrants.

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Re:Why do developers who could work anywhere flock to the mo... by anovikov on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @04:44AM (#14030670)

Of course, because they are EU citizens. All EU citizens can travel freely. But immigrants need a visa since Cyprus is not in Schengen. This is the case with all non-Schengen EU countries, like, immigrants living in London need a visa to go to Paris, but a Romanian doesn't need visa to go to London. An immigrant in a Schengen country can travel to any other Schengen country plus new non-Schengen entrants: Cyprus, Romania, Bulgaria and Croatia. For example, i am an immigrant in Lithuania (Schengen) and i travelled to Cyprus and Romania with no visa (i can't even technically apply for one), plus many Schengen states.

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Re:Why do developers who could work anywhere flock to the mo... by 6t6t6t6 on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @05:44AM (#14030908)

This situation is not uncommon. [Reunion Island][0] is a French province, but it is not in Schengen neither. Any European can go to live and work to Reunion Island, but a foreigner with a Schengen Permit cannot.

[0]: https://goo.gl/maps/TAJoEYLp7m32

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Re:Why do developers who could work anywhere flock to the mo... by Y_Y on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @07:38AM (#14031487)

Immigrants in the UK (right to remain, not just permanent resident) can travel freely in the EU (and CTA without even a passport).

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Re:Why do developers who could work anywhere flock to the mo... by StavrosK on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @10:37AM (#14033055)

Ah, I see, thanks. So immigrants aren't yet full citizens. In retrospect, that makes sense.

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