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Re:Student Debt Giant Navient to Borrowers: You’re on Your Own by lr4444lr on Monday April 03, 2017 @09:45PM (#14028889)
* Let people know what they're getting into.*

Are you suggesting that when people signed for the loan - which was not with Navient, as they're on the servicing and collections side - that they didn't know what the terms of repayment would be?

Re:Student Debt Giant Navient to Borrowers: You’re on Your Own by OrwellianChild on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @01:33AM (#14029758)
The central problem I have with a loan like this is that it is tied to a socially encouraged activity that is central to most Americans' ideas of a successful path to adulthood. If we're going to socially encourage this, it needs to have some backstops to catch folks who fall.

Whether the collections is outsourced or insourced, your average student borrower isn't planning on having their life's trajectory fall apart. They aren't expecting the hardships that lead them to need remediation. However many warnings you provide them on the front end, it's at the time of crisis that they need advice and guidance. Navient has been horribly negligent and predatory in this regard. Anyone taking on the job of preferred collector of gov't loans should be required to act in the interests of the borrowers - aka the American public.

Re:Student Debt Giant Navient to Borrowers: You’re on Your Own by lr4444lr on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @11:27AM (#14033652)
I agree with your paragraph 1, not with paragraph 2. The US Dept. of Ed. could have come up with any number of solutions including outright forgiveness, work programs, access to cheap fee-based financial planners, more scholarships, changes to the tax code for the borrowers, or hiring incentives for employers. Instead, it chose to sell it off the debt in order to keep the accounting balanced under the desired time frame.

Navient should pay what the court compels it to if outright deception is found, but let's not overstate their role in the general problem around the structural non-sustainability of federal education loans, and the short-sightedness executive decision to spin off the liabilities into private hands.

Re:Student Debt Giant Navient to Borrowers: You’re on Your Own by OrwellianChild on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @11:49AM (#14033949)
I don't think we necessarily disagree - you think outsourcing the liabilities was a bad move, presumably because in private hands, collections will be ruthless... I'm complaining about the same point. I just see no reason why "private actor" must imply ruthlessness. The terms of the contract or laws governing the collection of gov't loans could be written to enforce a fiduciary-like expectation into the arrangement.
Re:Student Debt Giant Navient to Borrowers: You’re on Your Own by twblalock on Monday April 03, 2017 @10:31PM (#14029069)
When I got my student loans, I had to do a whole bunch of online orientation. It included the various repayment plans, and even what the monthly oayment would be under each plan, and how much total interest each plan would eventually cost me. I think its a federal requirement that this information is provided before the loans are disbursed.

If someone doesn't take the time to understand their student loans, which are one of the most important things in their lives at that age, I just don't know what to say.

Re:Student Debt Giant Navient to Borrowers: You’re on Your Own by OrwellianChild on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @01:29AM (#14029733)
I'm glad you got that coaching, but I don't think that is very universal as a practice... My student loans were handed over with the usual fine-print paperweight. I had prior knowledge of how they worked, and fortunately never had to seek payment remediation, but that's just me being lucky. I want a system that mandates supportive care of the customer (who, in this case, is not a professional financial investor, but most likely a kid without a wealth of life experience to draw on).
Re:Student Debt Giant Navient to Borrowers: You’re on Your Own by twblalock on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @03:38AM (#14030346)
I was a kid then, and if I hadn't been given an explanation of how the loans worked, I would have looked it up. I was borrowing tens of thousands of dollars, and I wasn't about to screw that up.

I always look up the terms of any loans I take, including student loans, car loans, credit cards, etc. Honestly, is that too much to expect?

Re:Student Debt Giant Navient to Borrowers: You’re on Your Own by Glauc on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @06:24AM (#14031108)
Must be those gosh darn millennials. Regardless, this is a separate issue from a loan servicer falsely advertising that it will help you cope with dept.