Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ...
by komali2 on Monday April 03, 2017 @06:30PM
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Germany has the type of strict controls on free speech I think you're looking for (it's illegal to be a nazi, attend nazi rallies, etc), and yet they still have the hate crimes of which you speak.
There's no evidence that type of control really does anything to help.
EDIT: as always, am I being downvoted because I said something disagreeable, or because I said something wrong? If I am saying wrong things, please tell me so I don't continue to do so.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ...
by nyolfen on Monday April 03, 2017 @07:14PM
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> and yet they still have the hate crimes of which you speak.
exactly. all you do is drive it underground, and nothing solidifies ingroup identity like persecution. with free expression you can at least tell who these people are.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ...
by jakebasile on Monday April 03, 2017 @06:08PM
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How many people are killed by the Islamic state? I don't think they have strong free speech protection there.
Free speech and evil are not causal links.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ...
by joemi on Monday April 03, 2017 @06:27PM
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Restriction of free speech is a tool of fascist regimes. You don't fight fascism by becoming a fascist yourself.
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ...
by baobabKoodaa on Monday April 03, 2017 @06:48PM
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A hammer is a tool of fascist regimes as well. Doesn't mean you become a fascist by using a hammer. (For what its's worth, I support free speech as well. I just don't support poor arguments.)
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ...
by joemi on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @01:22AM
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A hammer is also a tool of non-fascist regimes, though. Is restriction of free speech also a tool of non-fascist regimes?
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ...
by btdiehr on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @01:58AM
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Are you sure you don't support poor arguments?
Re:Mexican Newspaper Shuts Down, Saying It Is Too Dangerous ...
by thinkmassive on Monday April 03, 2017 @06:08PM
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murder is already illegal
In Chechenya, only two days ago homophobes murdered at the very least three homosexual people, arrested over a hundred - and credible activists fear for much worse numbers.
Fascist and reactionary ideologies always lead to death.