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Re:'Hitler Tamed by Prison' (1924) by 542458 on Monday April 03, 2017 @01:00PM (#14024604)
Pure "fact-based" reporting is in no way a solution.

For example, take the following paragraph; "The Fukushima Daiichi reactors suffered a disaster in 2011, causing dangerous radiation leakage. Even six years later, radiation levels are high enough to be instantly fatal. Even brief exposure can cause genetic damage leading to cancer. The radioactive dust from the disaster has been carried eastward, and has been detected throughout the United States. This radioactive dust has likely been deposited in millions of houses across the country. However, the United States has no plans to initiate a domestic cleanup."

There are only facts in that paragraph, but it paints a very misleading picture of a domestic emergency that simply doesn't exist (the domestic radiation levels are so low as to be harmless to humans). Pure "fact" reporting doesn't solve this problem.

Re:'Hitler Tamed by Prison' (1924) by parsnips on Monday April 03, 2017 @01:08PM (#14024712)
If you included additional fact that the domestic radiation is not fatal, it does solve the problem.
Re:'Hitler Tamed by Prison' (1924) by diego on Monday April 03, 2017 @01:21PM (#14024897)
That is the point. Simply by choosing which facts to mention and which to omit you can create an extremely biased news piece.
Re:'Hitler Tamed by Prison' (1924) by parsnips on Monday April 03, 2017 @03:15PM (#14026102)
Omission of facts is not reporting the facts. That's the point.
Re:'Hitler Tamed by Prison' (1924) by NikolaeVarius on Monday April 03, 2017 @04:05PM (#14026616)
Yes it is.

How the hell do you report ALL the facts in any scenario?

Any publication in existance will have to pick and choose what to report in order to keep a article to a manageable level.

Do you think Scientific Abstracts are all factually correct? Hell no. There is actually a very well known issue with scientific experiments and articles where scientists will simply repeat experiments until they get a result that is within acceptable p-values and simply submit an article on that one experiment, ignoring every single time it was wrong.

Re:'Hitler Tamed by Prison' (1924) by enraged_camel on Tuesday April 04, 2017 @01:31AM (#14029745)
You don't need to report ALL the facts. You just need to report the pertinent ones. And the fact that domestic radiation is not fatal is pretty fucking pertinent to the passage in the OP.
Re:'Hitler Tamed by Prison' (1924) by JetSpiegel on Monday April 03, 2017 @04:45PM (#14026972)
Then any news piece must asymptotically approach infinite words.

Remember to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.

Re:'Hitler Tamed by Prison' (1924) by Ultramax on Monday April 03, 2017 @02:07PM (#14025390)
Exactly. But the issue here is that you are dealing with two different mindsets. On one hand, you have the paragraph above that 'stands alone'.

But that has no bearing on the truth. It's omitting key facts to be true, and creating a social situation like 'reacting to a non-existent threat'.

So to me and you, ridiculous paragraphs like those above are In Error, because they are Unfinished and Missing Info. But to others, they point to the paragraph above as some kind of 'sole entity' that exists on it's own.

No one cares about a paragraph that omits critical facts to portray the reality of the situation. But apparently, on the Internet, some do.

Chuck that incomplete paragraph in the trash and try again, that's my response to their nonsensical verbal antics.

Re:'Hitler Tamed by Prison' (1924) by andy_ppp on Monday April 03, 2017 @01:22PM (#14024906)
No, that's the exact point he's making; excluding certain information and "sticking to the facts" does not guarantee articles are not misleading.
Re:'Hitler Tamed by Prison' (1924) by simonh on Monday April 03, 2017 @01:21PM (#14024882)
You're missing the point that journalists can stick to facts, but still thoroughly pervade a piece with their own biases and agenda.