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Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by tobyhinloopen on Friday March 31, 2017 @01:53AM (#14001428)
So the media starts to scare us about illegal texting. Oh no! Lets make all chat apps non-secure so the bankers can no longer chat illegally anymore
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by J-dawg on Friday March 31, 2017 @02:08AM (#14001497)
That was my first thought as well. Look out for more "[unpopular group] uses [encrypted service] to break the rules" articles coming soon.
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by lomnakkus on Friday March 31, 2017 @02:20AM (#14001546)
Well, it is an easy way to "sell" these things...

Anyway, I've got two: paedophiles and terrorist.

Apparently, traders have now joined that elite. I'm just surprised bankers didn't make it there first... given the public sentiment. (I'm not sure I have any position (heh) on the matter myself.)

Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by ctack on Friday March 31, 2017 @02:27AM (#14001578)
Texting while driving does actually kill, but there is a less definable/unpopular "them" to target.
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by narrator on Friday March 31, 2017 @02:42AM (#14001641)
That, and encrypted texting while driving is just as dangerous as unencrypted texting while driving.
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by krylon on Friday March 31, 2017 @02:52AM (#14001679)
In that case, however, it does not matter if the messages are encrypted or not.
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by strictfp on Friday March 31, 2017 @02:25AM (#14001568)
And techies! /s
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by lomnakkus on Friday March 31, 2017 @04:23PM (#14007809)
Indeed, we really are all awful people. /s
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by CaptainZapp on Friday March 31, 2017 @02:49AM (#14001669)
Actually that's a pretty big deal. Financial institutions have far more stringent rules than an average company regarding communications.

Analysts must be shielded by "Chinese walls" from traders. Just imagine what a trader can do if he gets a 20 minute head start (or just a few pertinent bullet points) of an influential report, which is about to be published. Look up 'front running' for details.

Communications within financial companies and between banks and outside entities are pretty heavily regulated. And for very good reason.

Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by whatupmd on Friday March 31, 2017 @05:16AM (#14002192)
You are right that financial crimes are a big deal. However the solution to criminality is not to create a surveillance state.
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by CaptainZapp on Friday March 31, 2017 @07:47AM (#14002806)
Well, banks sure have a solution for such problems. They call it self-regulation.

[Hey you! Yes you at the back! Stop laughing...]

Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by ENOTTY on Friday March 31, 2017 @08:16AM (#14002939)
A surveillance state is exactly what the financial companies have created within their walls. Typically, every keystroke is logged.
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by wadeboggs on Friday March 31, 2017 @06:39AM (#14002534)
I mean it's one solution. What is the solution?
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by 0x445442 on Friday March 31, 2017 @09:39AM (#14003606)
Let's start with actually prosecuting those that break current laws without regarding color of skin or size of bank account.
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by na85 on Friday March 31, 2017 @07:22AM (#14002692)
To disincentivize huge salaries for people who create zero value, and just move money from point A to point B.
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by dagw on Friday March 31, 2017 @07:31AM (#14002729)
Moving something that is currently at A but should be at B absolutely creates value.
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by ue_ on Friday March 31, 2017 @07:57AM (#14002855)
Well, depends on your definition of value. In Marxian economics, with the exception of natural resource, value is created by labour, and commodities have both a use value and exchange value.
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by nerdponx on Friday March 31, 2017 @08:29AM (#14003001)
This just isn't true. Don't let Marx cloud your understanding of Smith.

Value is created when someone is willing to pay for something to get done, and that something gets done at a cost less than or equal to their willingness to pay. If somebody A is willing to pay for money to be moved, then as long as somebody B is there to move that money, then somebody B is likely generating value by doing so.

Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by ue_ on Friday March 31, 2017 @08:31AM (#14003012)
My mistake, you're right. Going to correct my comment.
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by dagw on Friday March 31, 2017 @08:03AM (#14002873)
But the value of commodities aren't fixed, but vary in both time and location. Much as taking a lump of gold and turning into a ring adds value to the gold, so does bringing the gold from the goldmine to the jeweler.
Re:Wall Street's WhatsApp Secret: Illegal Texting Is Out of ... by ccvannorman on Friday March 31, 2017 @02:12AM (#14001508)
Hey, this is a big deal. Bankers used to be above-board, even role models for ethics and legality. SnapChat has allowed them to be come corrupt. /s