Streisand is a good idea, but I don't believe users want 500 services running on their VPN gateway. Most of these protocols require a specific client, like OpenVPN. This is a 'kitchen sink' collection.

TrailOfBits released their ansible scripts for StrongS/WAN, which has sensible secure defaults (IPSec using AES-GCM only). They are calling the project algo.

https://github.com/trailofbits/algo

It is pretty easy to turn off any roles you don't want on Streisand. If you know for sure you will be using IPSEC I agree with you, use the ToB setup.

Specifically, compare their IKE setups:

https://github.com/jlund/streisand/blob/master/playbooks/rol...

https://github.com/trailofbits/algo/blob/master/roles/vpn/te...

Algo's is much more conservative. Streisand lets 3des and SHA1 into the mix. If you allow it, users will end up using it.

Otherwise, I think you are spot on and I prefer Algo (having used both for various things and just playing around).

For anyone about to try out algo – I assume it's great if you are using AWS or DigitalOcean, but if you're self hosting, or have an unsupported VPS, I've had nothing but trouble getting it up and running. I am most certainly to blame, but just a heads up.

Not to toot my own horn, but here's a blog post I just wrote on some issues I ran into setting up Algo on a pre-existing Vultr server. It might help.

http://modulolotus.net/posts/2016-03-28-setting-up-algo/

Excellent I'm embarrassed that I didn't ask if anyone had done this and wrote up their results.

From what I was experiencing, I bet it was either the root privileges, or the SSH connection errors. Thanks a ton.

Ironic that a project to do automated installation of packages on a remote machine has two pages of manual installation instructions for prerequisites on the command machine, before it can be run.

For this reason, amongst others, I've made a simple Bash script to install StrongSwan: https://github.com/jawj/IKEv2-setup

It's install git, pip, ansible, some python libraries, and download the script. It's two pages because they support a lot of operating systems on a lot of vps providers.

I thought you were being snarky but I went and had a look and I see what you mean there, other than installing ansible, seems like that can just be another role as well.

It almost seems ironic to me to run a personal privacy-protecting server in a cloud VM. If you assume that the "agencies" have access to the "clouds," whether directly through backdoors or through moles, don't you have to assume that they could crawl VMs, detect ones like this that are virtually identical, and automatically install rootkits in them? Or just monitor them by reading memory through the hypervisor? How would you even know if the hypervisor were compromised?

This is more likely a response to the recent reversal of FCC privacy rules.

This may not defend against state actors, but will against nosy ISPs.

What about the cloud providers' ISPs?

Backbone providers provide services to businesses. If one of them was caught monitoring traffic, their reputation would be destroyed.

That's why they go the extra length not to be caught. Even if they wanted to alert a user that he's monitored, wouldn't national security letter come with a gag order forbidding this ?

We're talking ISPs here, not state actors. If an individual catches the full attention of the NSA, there's not all that much they can do to defend their privacy.

Please don't fall for marketing wording, there's no "cloud". It's called a data center. Choose a data center where the authority you want protection from does not have access, outside of US if you want to prevent your data from being among those sold by ISPs.

As usual it depends on the threat model you want to protect from and if you are a high profile target there's not much you can do against a nation state.

This is the Mossad argument on cryptography.... if your adversary is Mossad, they'll just rubber hose cryptanalysis you, if your adversary is not Mossad, a proxy is good enough.

This is not about defeating "the agencies". This is about protecting your data from your ISP.

Here's a similar playbook more focused around self-hosting common services like email, calendars, contacts in addition to a VPN: https://github.com/sovereign/sovereign

I don't know Ansible very well... is it possible to install only a subset (namely, the vpn service you plan to actually use)? It seems like a large attack service to have every VPN software possible running on the machine.

Yes. It depends on how well organized the Playbook is, but this one is nice. As long as they kept their dependencies clean edit:

https://github.com/jlund/streisand/blob/master/playbooks/str...

Comment out any roles you don't want with a # at the beginning of the line, YAML is very picky about syntax.

comment edit: Think of roles in ansible like building blocks or common chores you can apply to any server. It might be nice to not have so much stuff by default, but this tool isn't meant for complete technical novices, so it is expected (in my opinion) that you go in and prune anything out you don't want/need. What is nice is that you have lots of options and if you ever need to add a role you can just uncomment it and re-run the playbook.

I think you'd typically want to use tags [0] for controlling which portions of an ansible playbook run, for a one-off set of tasks like this. This one in particular isn't set up to work that way though.

[0] http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/playbooks_tags.html

This one is organized around roles instead (and role dependencies).

You can tag entire roles themselves.

Lately I've been using this as a way to quickly apply selective config. It feels 'hacked-on', but it works.

This reminds me of Caislean (https://equalit.ie/portfolio/caislean/

I'm using algo (https://github.com/trailofbits/algo) on an AWS instance, easy to set up and provides configuration across devices. Did find my iPhone struggling to use data sometimes when connecting to the VPN over the cell network. Can always disable that feature though.

Say if I wanted to set something up like this for my friends, family and myself to use. Which would be the best and most feature rich for multi user?

I would love the option to not log ANY of the traffic or DNS requests my friends/family initiate.

Streisand is multi user. Supports five by default if I recall, possibly more

Depends. The OpenVPN role will generate five clients, however the server is configured to allow certificate re-use, effectively unlimited (for OpenVPN at least).

Streisand is a very, very good idea -- unfortunately it simply doesn't work at present. I've tried using it on AWS and Google Cloud and neither option works whether I run it natively on Ansible under OSX or on Ansible under Vagrant.

It is very cleanly implemented implemented though -- nicely implemented playbooks (I write Ansible professionally so I can actually say that).

Going to try algo today.

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