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Re:Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person by dredmorbius on Thursday March 30, 2017 @01:08AM (#13993068)
You're begging the question (and yes, that's proper use): why should all the rewards go to those who've taken some risk?

What of the risks taken by others? Are there uncompensated risk-bearing activities?

Are there activities with low risk but high return?

Suppose, say, dropping a drill bit next to the guy who's just blown in a gusher? Or securing control of the pipelines, railroads, and refineries by which that oil must make its way to market?

Re:Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person by sumedh on Thursday March 30, 2017 @05:04AM (#13993898)
> What of the risks taken by others?

What risks do employees take, they are getting a salary. If they are not happy they can leave and get another job. The founder has to put everything in it, his money, time, relationships, reputation. This is not "some risk", he cannot just walk away.

Re:Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person by pnut on Thursday March 30, 2017 @06:53AM (#13994322)
What prevents a founder from walking away and getting a job exactly?

I did it, so I know it can be done.

Founders reap rewards of their risk-taking almost immediately, and it accelerates exponentially from there.

This really cuts to a major point of contention in modern politics - exaggerated pity party for the hardships of the most powerful people in society.

It is a privilege to take such risks, and if you are in doubt, go get a soul-crushing treadmill job and watch the fruits of your labour flow elsewhere.

Re:Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person by sumedh on Thursday March 30, 2017 @07:14AM (#13994400)
> What prevents a founder from walking away and getting a job exactly?

He/she can do that but the sacrifices are greater compared to just being an employee.

> go get a soul-crushing treadmill job and watch the fruits of your labour flow elsewhere

I am from India, I have seen abject poverty. I know it's a privilege to take such risks, my original point was focussed more on HN demographics not the poor people who I know cannot take such risks. Poor people who cannot take such risks is a totally different conversation

Re:Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person by dredmorbius on Thursday March 30, 2017 @04:06PM (#13998455)
the sacrifices are greater compared to just being an employee.

Sunk cost fallacy.

Re:Jeff Bezos Is Now the World's Second Richest Person by dredmorbius on Thursday March 30, 2017 @04:05PM (#13998453)
Of late, employee risks include being on the short side of an extremely unbalanced power relationship. This includes unilateral and eternal NDAs, claims on all work, non-competes (including in such "industries" as sandwich shops, hairstyling, and auto repair), drugs tests (which risk drugs convictions), and more.

Jobs mobility may be limited by blacklists or other forms of discrimination: H1-B visas or other immigration status, social, religious, gender/sex, issues (not legally, in most cases, but de-facto), and more.

Employees are committing just as much of their fungible time, and often appreciably all of their available resources, which for roughly half the population net out to roughly zero. Figures I've seen suggest that about that number could not come up with $500 - $2000 (amount varies) on a 1-2 week notice -- that's far less than the amount required for, say, a business-appropriate wardrobe, transit or transport access, apartment deposit, and a month's food.

And that's within the US/EU/AU/JP/UK. It's considerably worse in much the rest of the world.