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Re:Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant by masklinn on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @01:43PM (#13988760)
Companies and unions are in a prisoner's dilemma, the german/nordic model works because both parties cooperate, historically US or French companies have not been cooperative (many a US labor movement or union was put down by private armies — pinkerton was a big one — or even the US army).

If the union cooperates with an uncooperative company it just gets rolled over, if the union is combative it works better (until the union falls below the level of strength which lets them balance the company).

Look no further than Amazon in Germany for a demonstration.

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Re:Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant by caminante on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:50PM (#13989390)
Germany has a lot of govt. financed/controlled businesses.

Lower Saxony (German state) has 20% voting control of Volkswagen, Audi's parent company. There are also anti-takeover restrictions such as shareholder ownership caps.

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Re:Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant by cmarschner on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @05:49PM (#13990923)
>Germany has a lot of govt. financed/controlled businesses.

Examples, apart from VW and Deutsche Bahn? After privatization of the Kohl era there shouldn't be much left. When I was a kid I even drank milk from a state-owned dairy plant.

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Re:Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant by caminante on Thursday March 30, 2017 @05:57AM (#13994079)
Here you go! [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprise#Germany

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Re:Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant by cmarschner on Friday March 31, 2017 @03:30AM (#14001810)
That doesn't seem to be excessive? I find it a pretty short list of names that are just quite highly visible. It's mostly enterprises that provide some form of public good (infrastructure).
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Re:Audi's unions demand electric model for main German plant by caminante on Friday March 31, 2017 @10:50AM (#14004352)
It's not an exhaustive list. At that, IMHO, it's too general to say these firms (sampled) produce public goods (i.e. nonrivalrous and nonexcludable). For example, I don't get the benefits from intermodal shipping via Hapag-Lloyd without paying.
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