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Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by redsummer on Tuesday March 28, 2017 @06:38PM (#13981479)
The culture has an ideology about race which is shared and fed by the media. It's almost a nostalgia for the sixties where people want to pin halos on themselves by pretending its the 60s and that they are fighting against segregated buses etc.

The demand for stories which fit this narrative outstrip the supply. The same thing can be seen with various 'hate crimes' which are eventually revealed as hoaxes. The media - and the public - are strangely desperate for this bigoted world to exist - because they can feel more noble fighting it.

I'm guessing it has something to do with all the ideological refugees, in academia and the media, from the 60s and 70s who are fighting battles that are long over.

Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by foldr on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @04:44AM (#13984423)
Not sure how you can say this when a literal white supremacist just literally murdered a random black man in New York because he was black. Is that a hoax in your view?
Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by angry-hacker on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @09:37AM (#13986058)
Statistically this event is irrelevant, it doesn't happen often and black person is more likely to die because of anything else, most likely because of another fellow black person. Stop fearmongering.
Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by foldr on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @09:49AM (#13986154)
You could say the same thing about terrorist attacks. The effect of hate crimes goes far beyond the deaths of the individuals involved.

The suggestion that we shouldn't worry about hate crimes until they're a leading cause of death for members of minority groups presumably doesn't deserve a response. Even in the Jim Crow south, it's not as if a majority of black people died from being lynched.

It's quite silly to suggest that I'm 'fearmongering' merely by referencing something that's already all over the news. I don't think my mention of this incident deep within an HN thread is likely to cause anyone to be more frightened than they already are.

Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by angry-hacker on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @11:00AM (#13986873)
It's no better than stormfront users spamming the stats about blacks in prison, black on white rape and crime etc.

As I said, statistically this event is irrelevant and doesn't add anything to discussion.

Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by foldr on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @11:21AM (#13987119)
Saying that I'm no better than white supremacists on the basis of my fairly anodyne comments is pretty clearly crossing the line.

I hope that you are not being sincere.

In any case, as I already addressed your point about "statistical significance", it appears that you have nothing further to contribute to the discussion.

Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by angry-hacker on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @12:17PM (#13987719)
Don't put words in my mouth.
Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by wayn3 on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @09:20AM (#13985903)
was the random black man literally black or just black?
Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by foldr on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @09:22AM (#13985917)
Depends whether you think that 'black' as an ethnic classification has a separate literal meaning from 'black' as a color term. If you do, then yes, literally black. If not, then no, not literally black in color.
Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by jpttsn on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @07:21AM (#13985024)
Gp said the demand for stories exceeds the supply. Any one story being supplied can't disprove that.
Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by foldr on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @08:45AM (#13985521)
Who said anything about proof? It's not as if the GGP proved his claims either.
Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by jpttsn on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @12:17PM (#13987710)
"iPhone demand is greater than supply"

"Not sure how you can say that when this one guy sold his iPhone"

It sounds like a counter argument and fails to be one.

Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by foldr on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @02:30PM (#13989186)
The idea of "demand" for hate crimes doesn't even make sense, so there isn't any argument to respond to. Clearly, the intention of the original commenter was to minimize the existence of hate crimes. That is what I was responding to. You might also bear in mind that it is not difficult to find other examples of hate crimes than the one I chose, or to find official statistics:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2015

Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by mehaveaccount on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @11:27AM (#13987175)
Do you have a police report to link to back that up?
Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by rmxt on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @12:42PM (#13988034)
A simple Google search turns up many results.
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Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by rmxt on Thursday March 30, 2017 @10:34AM (#13995663)
Seems like you can't Google, don't quite understand how American civil procedure works, or are willfully ignorant to both so as to be able maintain your predispositions. I'll call this "trolling". Or, at a minimum, posting in bad faith.

A police report doesn't quite matter anymore in the case mentioned above, nor should it be the final arbiter of what you believe to be true, when a grand jury of one's peers has already determined there to exist probable cause enough for the person to stand trial for capital crimes (crimes that contain "act of terror" and "hate crime" as "modifiers").

"The grand jury voted to charge Mr. Jackson with murder as an act of terror in the first- and second-degree, Joan Illuzzi-Orbon, an assistant district attorney, said during a brief appearance in Criminal Court in Manhattan. Judge Tamiko A. Amaker ordered Mr. Jackson, who was also charged with second-degree murder as a hate crime and misdemeanor weapons possession, to return to jail until his arraignment on April 13 in State Supreme Court."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/27/nyregion/timothy-caughman...

I am not sure what you could possibly be denying at this point. Do you think that the NY Times is lying? That this Grand Jury never actually convened? That he didn't actually stab the victim? That this wasn't actually (at least potentially) a hate crime? That we are in a post-racial America?

Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by foldr on Thursday March 30, 2017 @06:52AM (#13994308)
Could you give a link to an example of an NYPD police report? It's not clear exactly what you're asking for.
Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by mehaveaccount on Thursday March 30, 2017 @10:11AM (#13995458)
http://www1.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/faq/377/how-do-i-get-a-cop...

Until a reporter gets one of these I'm not believing anything they say. And when they do get it then I'm only going to believe what is on that report.

Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by foldr on Wednesday April 12, 2017 @10:02AM (#14097753)
So in fact it is not possible to link to a police report, and your original request was disingenuous.
Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by lern_too_spel on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @03:15AM (#13984082)
There is a Virginia gubernatorial candidate encouraging supporters to fly the Confederate battle flag, there are several states that celebrate Confederate History Month (and one more introducing legislation to that effect), there are multiple states with a Confederate Heroes Day or holiday for the birth of the CSA's President, and the POTUS himself has well-documented housing discrimination against blacks, but you believe we live in a post-racial society? Give me a break.
Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by ykler on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @05:54AM (#13984662)
The person you are responding to never said we live in a post-racial society.
Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by foldr on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @06:28AM (#13984817)
They didn't use those exact words, but the comment clearly suggests that racial discrimination no longer exists, and that there are few if any real instances of hate crimes.
Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by jpttsn on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @07:23AM (#13985036)
I think you have enemies that believe racial discrimination doesn't exist, and then you too eagerly fit random internet commenters into that pattern of your enemies.
Re:I’m Not “Black Enough” for Inc. Magazine by foldr on Wednesday March 29, 2017 @08:45AM (#13985530)
It's actually simpler than that. I just read the comment. It clearly says that hate crimes are largely made up.