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Re:Modern JavaScript for Ancient Web Developers by Cacti on Thursday March 23, 2017 @01:21PM (#13941838)
That's a load of crap, there's nothing portable about a JS environment that requires build xyz of browser pqr, plus the hardware requirements, bandwidth requirements, etc. Take any ONE of those away and you're hosed (e.g., try loading even a single web page from Amazon on 56k).

Every technology of the past 40 years has claimed "portability" as its mantra, and yet here we are still.

Re:Modern JavaScript for Ancient Web Developers by dasil003 on Thursday March 23, 2017 @01:29PM (#13941926)
Sure, but the web is a unique portability story in the history of computing. Has any other platform been an open standard that ends up being table stakes for any new entrant? Think about it, if you try to make a computer without a web browser today, you'd be laughed out of the market.
Re:Modern JavaScript for Ancient Web Developers by ktRolster on Thursday March 23, 2017 @02:36PM (#13942722)
Has any other platform been an open standard that ends up being table stakes for any new entrant?

C, Java. Far more computers run C than run Javascript.

Re:Modern JavaScript for Ancient Web Developers by esrauch on Thursday March 23, 2017 @02:51PM (#13942893)
Number of machines that can run code written in the language isn't really the best metric for realistic portability. Sure, your toaster might run C and not JS, but it isn't going on run your C anyway.
Re:Modern JavaScript for Ancient Web Developers by TeMPOraL on Thursday March 23, 2017 @04:29PM (#13943947)
My browser isn't running my JavaScript, it's running yours. In fact, the capability to run my own code in my own browser is being slowly but systematically removed from the browser.
Re:Modern JavaScript for Ancient Web Developers by esrauch on Friday March 24, 2017 @08:15AM (#13948363)
When I said "you" I meant "the developer" not "the user": the class of devices that run C and not JS is also a class of devices that generally don't run third party code. If you aren't a hardware manufacturer (or trying to sell middleware to one) the fact the embedded systems run binaries that were programmed in C isn't in any way relevant.
Re:Modern JavaScript for Ancient Web Developers by c22 on Friday March 24, 2017 @03:04PM (#13951359)
If only that toaster had a web browser.
Re:Modern JavaScript for Ancient Web Developers by moron4hire on Thursday March 23, 2017 @05:06PM (#13944287)
Yeah, good luck getting that Qt app running on an iPhone.
Re:Modern JavaScript for Ancient Web Developers by tedunangst on Thursday March 23, 2017 @06:03PM (#13944763)
Re:Modern JavaScript for Ancient Web Developers by divanvisagie on Friday March 24, 2017 @02:41AM (#13947133)
Wow , that was beautiful
Re:Modern JavaScript for Ancient Web Developers by ktRolster on Thursday March 23, 2017 @08:18PM (#13945552)
QT is not C