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Re:Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones ... by arethuza on Thursday March 23, 2017 @09:46AM (#13939653)
Speaking of Scythia - somewhat bizarrely Scottish legends claim that the Scots were originally from there!

"They journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however barbarous. Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of Israel crossed the Red Sea, to their home in the west where they still live today."

Declaration of Arbroath, 1320.

Re:Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones ... by GlennS on Thursday March 23, 2017 @11:21AM (#13940501)
Geoffrey of Monmouth's History of the Kings of Britain makes similar claims for Scythian ancestry, and that the Scythians were in turn refugees from Troy.

He also claimed that ancient Britons laid seige to Rome.

Pretty funny how his bullshit survived and was repeated through the centuries.

Re:Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones ... by arethuza on Thursday March 23, 2017 @11:29AM (#13940593)
And on the way from Scythia the Scots somehow also apparently also picked up the stone that Jacob rested his head on at Bethel which became, via a detour to Dunadd and Scone, the Stone of Destiny!

[Spoilsport geologists dispute this story with their pesky "facts" ;-)]

Re:Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones ... by tacomonstrous on Thursday March 23, 2017 @10:28AM (#13939997)
It's not an unreasonable legend. Conventional wisdom is that all Indo-Europeans sprang from the steppes of Central Asia. Having it mentioned in a 14th century declaration is pretty fascinating!
Re:Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones ... by arethuza on Thursday March 23, 2017 @10:34AM (#13940058)
Given the context of the Declaration (i.e. The First Scottish War of Independence) it sounds to me like propaganda trying to claim an ancient and separate lineage for the Scots.

Mind you the Declaration is a great document - proclaiming Scottish freedom and saying that while Robert the Bruce is a cool guy if he doesn't turn out to be a good king then he'll be sacked and another one found from somewhere. Which is a fairly novel idea for kings.

Re:Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones ... by throwaway91111 on Thursday March 23, 2017 @11:06AM (#13940353)
The proto-indo-European migration is thought to have been a cultural and linguistic migration, not a mass physical migration or a conquest.
Re:Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones ... by clw8 on Thursday March 23, 2017 @10:31PM (#13946132)
Source on that? IE spread from the Dnieper River area to Western Europe and Western China in a rather short amount of time. Clearly there was a lot of migration from the Urheimat.
Re:Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones ... by empath75 on Thursday March 23, 2017 @10:31AM (#13940026)
Sort of. The languages did. But there were people in Scotland before any indo Europeans got there.
Re:Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones ... by wavefunction on Thursday March 23, 2017 @04:12PM (#13943779)
And people before those people, most likely!
Re:Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones ... by mason240 on Thursday March 23, 2017 @11:09AM (#13940374)
That is was written in the 14th century makes it very suspect.
Re:Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones ... by s_kilk on Thursday March 23, 2017 @12:37PM (#13941362)
The legendary early settlers of Ireland, the Nemedians (who would have later settled Scotland) came from Scythia:

"Nemed, ... was the son of Agnoman of Scythia..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemed

Re:Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones ... by arethuza on Thursday March 23, 2017 @12:50PM (#13941498)
Interesting that they talk about their predecessors completely dying out. There was a fascinating Time Team special where they mentioned that Britain has had seven completely separate waves of inhabitants - with the predecessors apparently all dying out.

Probably a coincidence though as the timescales won't match up but fascinating to even consider that there was some historical truth behind those old myths.

Re:Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones ... by vram22 on Thursday March 23, 2017 @06:33PM (#13944960)
Sounds similar to the stories of the deluge in many cultures, that supposedly wiped out all or most earlier life, once or periodically. Bible's Noah's ark, Hinduism's pralaya (IIRC, primeval flood), many others ...

If there really was such a thing, it might explain a lot of these stories.

Re:Ancient Romans depicted Huns as barbarians – their bones ... by hinkley on Thursday March 23, 2017 @12:13PM (#13941104)
I was astonished to learn that the biggest Celtic megalith structures are in northern France. Easy to forget how certain empires spread and collapsed in different directions.