Three Months of Go, from a Haskeller’s perspective (2016)

Re:Three Months of Go, from a Haskeller’s perspective (2016) by cube2222 on Sunday March 19, 2017 @10:30AM (#13907269)

Totally not, I'm working in Poland. And, I'm sorry to say, if you haven't heard about Consul, then you're really not in a position to judge if infrastructure tools are or aren't written in Go. Consul is the de'facto industry standard for service discovery for a few years already.

EDIT: Cockroach is actually the most SV'ish of all those.

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Re:Three Months of Go, from a Haskeller’s perspective (2016) by unscaled on Sunday March 19, 2017 @11:24AM (#13907626)

I think you exaggerate. Consul is probably the go-to discovery service discovery for new projects at startups and tech companies that aren't afraid of the bleeding edge, but if you count installed base and less bleeding-edge companies ZooKeeper probably still reigns supreme.

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Re:Three Months of Go, from a Haskeller’s perspective (2016) by kuschku on Sunday March 19, 2017 @11:31AM (#13907669)

Definitely. And while ZooKeeper is common, (and apparently Consul is now the hot new thing, I guess?), many places also build their own systems.

I wouldn’t call Consul "industry-dominating technology", as you’d do with ElasticSearch, Hadoop, Spark, etc.

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Re:Three Months of Go, from a Haskeller’s perspective (2016) by cube2222 on Sunday March 19, 2017 @11:38AM (#13907719)

I'd call Spark a much more bleeding edge product than Consul. And no, it's not the hot new thing at all. It's just a standard tool.

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Re:Three Months of Go, from a Haskeller’s perspective (2016) by unscaled on Sunday March 19, 2017 @11:41AM (#13907741)

And the funny part is that all of them are Java. :) Well, except Spark which is Scala.

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Re:Three Months of Go, from a Haskeller’s perspective (2016) by kuschku on Sunday March 19, 2017 @11:44AM (#13907764)

Yes, exactly. In a list of most important tools out there, Go only turns up for a few tasks that used to be done in C++, as layer between the OS and services.

Almost everywhere else, it’s not "industry-dominating" at all, so I’m not sure why people use the argument "go is used everywhere and everything is in go" (which is obviously false) to argue that go is a good language.

(besides, C is actually used everywhere, but no one would use that as argument to show how C is a good language).

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Re:Three Months of Go, from a Haskeller’s perspective (2016) by kuschku on Sunday March 19, 2017 @11:01AM (#13907442)

> Consul is the de'facto industry standard for service discovery for a few years already.

So standard that it doesn’t even have a Wikipedia page? Nor is there even one for this specific type of datacenter-oriented service discovery?

This is all pretty niche tech, used by a handful of startups that engineer technology for billions of users, but not used anywhere else. I’ve never seen any companies on national scale operate with this – nor would they need to.

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Re:Three Months of Go, from a Haskeller’s perspective (2016) by cube2222 on Sunday March 19, 2017 @11:09AM (#13907502)

The thing is, I know a lot of companies using it at nationwide scale (non-startups). I think there's a reason you are getting downvoted.

Anyways, Service Discovery like this is less niche than containers are. If containers are still niche for you, then there you go.

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Re:Three Months of Go, from a Haskeller’s perspective (2016) by kuschku on Sunday March 19, 2017 @11:29AM (#13907650)

> I think there's a reason you are getting downvoted.

Well, so are you, your comments are even so grey I can barely read them anymore (and I can’t downvote you).

Regarding the rest: Containers are far less niche than Consul is. For service discovery, the market isn’t nearly as monopolized as containers are. And containers are far more used than consul is – most places I’ve seen build their own service discovery systems, or hardcode a main node and then have services in containers register with that, etc.

While for containers, at the moment, there’s almost only docker, due to the ecosystem.

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Re:Three Months of Go, from a Haskeller’s perspective (2016) by maloney on Sunday March 19, 2017 @11:04AM (#13907469)

etcd is also used quite a bit for service discovery, but it's written in Go too :)

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Re:Three Months of Go, from a Haskeller’s perspective (2016) by cube2222 on Sunday March 19, 2017 @12:11PM (#13907916)

Are you using it personally? I never met anyone using it for that. How's your experience with it been? (in case you did use it)

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