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Re:Palantir enables immigration agents to look up informatio... by ng12 on Friday March 17, 2017 @03:45PM (#13897324)
I'm saying worry about ICE's conduct, worrying about Palantir is unproductive. ICE's ability to build a database is not the limiting factor.
Re:Palantir enables immigration agents to look up informatio... by et-al on Friday March 17, 2017 @04:40PM (#13897797)
Though it's easier to attract bright and hopefuls to work for Palantir than ICE, right? And it's easier for these employees to excuse their actions with an "I didn't know my efforts would end up being used for that purpose", or "I just wanted to work on interesting problems".
Re:Palantir enables immigration agents to look up informatio... by nobodyorother on Friday March 17, 2017 @04:39PM (#13897784)
Worrying about both is appropriate: in both cases, folks are acting like amoral jerks, mentally divorcing their actions from the amount of suffering they directly or indirectly cause.

I think the long term question is: how can we make these choices less okay and less profitable?

Re:Palantir enables immigration agents to look up informatio... by sedachv on Friday March 17, 2017 @04:42PM (#13897818)
> I'm saying worry about ICE's conduct, worrying about Palantir is unproductive.

How so? Exposing and holding people and companies accountable for wrong behavior does not stop anyone from trying to change the government policies that encourage the wrong behavior. The added media exposure probably helps, especially with people that are interested in the person/company but are not aware of the government policies and their impact.

Re:Palantir enables immigration agents to look up informatio... by ng12 on Friday March 17, 2017 @04:52PM (#13897901)
> holding people and companies accountable for wrong behavior

That's the question, right? Is this wrong behavior? It's legal, that's for sure. Just because you don't agree with ICE's actions doesn't mean every Palantir employee agrees with you.

Re:Palantir enables immigration agents to look up informatio... by sedachv on Friday March 17, 2017 @05:38PM (#13898210)
All of your replies in this topic have been logical fallacies:

1. "Someone else would have done it."

2. False dichotomy.

And now piling on:

3. Moral relativism.

4. Finish the Job. (#49 in http://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/engl1311/fallacies.htm)

Re:Palantir enables immigration agents to look up informatio... by ng12 on Friday March 17, 2017 @05:57PM (#13898326)
That's not really constructive. Do you have an actual point to make?
Re:Palantir enables immigration agents to look up informatio... by sedachv on Friday March 17, 2017 @06:04PM (#13898382)
My actual point is you are a troll engaging in Sea lioning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_lioning
Re:Palantir enables immigration agents to look up informatio... by ng12 on Friday March 17, 2017 @06:10PM (#13898419)
You were complaining about logical fallacies and then discredit my argument as "trolling". Pot, kettle, etc.