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Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by angryasian on Thursday March 16, 2017 @12:54PM (#13886587)
I know everyone wants to hate on google, but I think we should be more worried about our government and ISP's

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/gop-senators-new...

no one is safe if this bill passes.

Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by pavel_lishin on Thursday March 16, 2017 @01:14PM (#13886798)
Seems like we ought to be worried about both.
Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by angryasian on Thursday March 16, 2017 @01:25PM (#13886914)
true, but with google you have a choice. ISP's are generally granted monopolies and most people don't have a choice. Google only hands over data when mandated by courts or government. ISP's are looking to actively share and sell your information.
Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by bmon on Friday March 17, 2017 @04:05AM (#13892341)
While I agree that Google is likely more trustworthy, I think it is naive to think Google does not sell your information; that's how they make money, right?
Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by angryasian on Friday March 17, 2017 @01:32PM (#13896006)
that is not how they make money. They make money by showing people ads. All they allow you as a user to do is specify attributes you're targeting and the people that view these ads ... match those attributes as best as possible
Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by dkhenry on Thursday March 16, 2017 @01:13PM (#13886790)
That bill opens up to ISP's what website's ( like google ) hav e been doing for years. If no one is safe because of that bill, then no one is safe already. VPN'ing around your ISP is about the same level of difficulty as setting your default search engine to not be google.
Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by kharms on Thursday March 16, 2017 @02:07PM (#13887354)
>VPN'ing around your ISP is about the same level of difficulty as setting your default search engine to not be google.

Not even close.

VPN involves:

* Knowledge of the purpose of a VPN

* Knowledge of a specific VPN

* Money to pay for VPN

* Maintenance in the form of turning it on/off depending on application

* A method of digitally paying your bill, i.e. a credit card.

In contrast, if you know nothing about computers but open IE/Edge for the first time you'll be prompted to select your search engine.

Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by ozaark on Friday March 17, 2017 @07:52PM (#13898994)
Opera has a free VPN built in
Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by angryasian on Thursday March 16, 2017 @01:15PM (#13886813)
google doesn't sell or share your personal information to anyone. Its a huge distinction.
Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday March 16, 2017 @01:36PM (#13887014)
> google doesn't sell or share your personal information to anyone [sic]

The article is about Google sharing someone's private searches with the police.

Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by _archon_ on Thursday March 16, 2017 @01:46PM (#13887139)
TFA is about Google being ordered to share information to police, by a (currently) legal court order. There's no call for [sic] in your quotation of GP.
Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday March 16, 2017 @03:41PM (#13888437)
GP said Google doesn't share personal information with anyone. That's not true. The article shows them sharing it with someone. The point isn't pedantic when one of their competitors, DuckDuckGo, literally can't--court order or not.

My use of sic erat scriptum means I'm quoting GP, grammatical errors and all. This point, in contrast to the previous one, is pedantic :). (One doesn't share information to someone, but with them. "Google doesn't sell your personal information to, nor share it with, anyone" or "Google doesn't sell or share your personal information" are more correct.)

[1] https://duckduckgo.com

Re:Police ask for whole city's Google searches, and a judge ... by Raphmedia on Thursday March 16, 2017 @01:21PM (#13886875)
The only reason they don't share it to anyone is that "anyone" is their competition.