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Re:Norway mass murderer Breivik was 'already damaged by the ... by tinus_hn on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @08:12PM (#13881172)
Does it really matter that much? Even if you were to say he's not responsible, you can't let him out on the streets.

One of the goals of the justice system is to protect society from criminals by removing them from it, temporarily or permanently.

Re:Norway mass murderer Breivik was 'already damaged by the ... by deepsun on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @08:24PM (#13881247)
Agree, but justice systems are different:

Some countries (like ex-USSR) also practice _punishing_ for a crime in prison -- further humiliating and abusing convicted person. Don't know if there's a reason (if ever were), but some people argue that it helps to reduce future crimes by other people ("don't do that, or you'll get to prison, you know what they do there"). Can't tell if it's supported by statistics.

In other countries, like Norway, justice systems are the other way around -- besides removing criminals from society, they also bear a job to re-socializing criminals -- treating them humane and helping them to find a job after the prison.

These other responsibilities affect answer to your question.

Re:Norway mass murderer Breivik was 'already damaged by the ... by ceejayoz on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @08:33PM (#13881291)
> Does it really matter that much?

Yes. Not every person "damaged" in this manner gets a life sentence, having committed lesser but still serious crimes. How we treat them in prison and afterwards matters, and an understanding of the causes helps.

Punitive, harsh incarceration likely creates/exacerbates a bunch of damaged people with little hope of a future afterwards.

Re:Norway mass murderer Breivik was 'already damaged by the ... by phs318u on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @09:32PM (#13881613)
Agree that you can't let him out on the streets. However, protection needn't just be reactive. On the basis that prevention is better than cure is better than amputation, wouldn't it be great if we did a bunch more multi-disciplinary research into the why's and wherefore's and used that to inform everything from in-vitro genetic screening, child rearing, education, health policy, policing and judicial responses?

Personally, I believe there are too many interests at play that are quite happy not to have their methods questioned, and "preventing the next psychopath" has an element of the Y2K problem, in that, if successful, all you get is "Was that really necessary? Are you sure you didn't overstate the problem? Did we really need to spend all that money?"

Re:Norway mass murderer Breivik was 'already damaged by the ... by pyre on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @08:25PM (#13881251)
Well, it also depends on how you want to treat him once you remove him from society too. If you want to state that he is just "full of pure evil," then maybe you just want to treat him really poorly.
Re:Norway mass murderer Breivik was 'already damaged by the ... by Waterluvian on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @08:22PM (#13881234)
I think the sentence may effectively be the same. But it's critically important not to mislabel people.