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Re:PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems by CaptSpify on Tuesday March 14, 2017 @11:21PM (#13873573)
> PulseAudio is pretty good these days and typically works out of the box for most need.

Ehh...... I'll disagree with that. I have ~50% success rate of it working on my devices in the past 5 years.

Re:PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems by paulfurtado on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @12:03AM (#13873715)
A 50% success rate is pretty bad. May I ask what distributions you're using and which devices you've had trouble on? Are you using any special configuration?

Most modern distros come with pulseaudio by default, which means I'd guess that over 90% of linux users use pulseaudio successfully. I've run workshops helping people install linux on their machines and I've never run into a system where pulseaudio did not work that alsa did.

Re:PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems by pdkl95 on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @12:51AM (#13873885)
> come with pulseaudio by default

Which means they almost certainly include libasound.so, because PA still depends on ALSA in the kernel. Even in the case of distros that only use the ALSA emulation interface for PA, the traditional ALSA interface is still provided. Lots of software would break without that support.

It's more accurate to say most distros support both PA and ALSA by default.

> use pulseaudio successfully

Note that "successfully" doesn't imply "enjoyably" or "preferentially". I still hear complaints regularly from people that hate newer (PA-focused) distros that introduced a lot of latency problems. Movie audio sync became inconsistent (hundreds of ms latency, very high variability), and UI audio cues playing up to 3s (3000ms) after the visual changes.

Re:PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems by CaptSpify on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @12:55AM (#13873905)
Mostly debian and ubuntu. Mostly Thinkpads, a couple of dells that I don't remember the model of, and a couple of compaqs. All of them standard builds. I've never added a soundcard that I can recall.

This is what bothers me so much about discussions about PA. There are legitimate problems with it, and whenever someone mentions them, everyone else chimes in to say that they are the minority, that they are doing it wrong, etc etc. This is how polarization happens.

I've had a much higher success rate with alsa ootb.

Re:PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems by Zardoz84 on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @02:56AM (#13874302)
And I have a 100% success rate. A single case don't means nothing.
Re:PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems by CaptSpify on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @03:02AM (#13874331)
No, but I can demonstrate that there are problems. And judging by others in this thread, I'm not the only one. I find that saying "typically works out of the box for most need." is incorrect.
Re:PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems by nirbheek on Thursday March 16, 2017 @03:51PM (#13888547)
In open source, an unreported bug doesn't exist. Did you report it upstream?