Re:Chekhov: “Cultured people must, in my opinion, satisfy th...
by pvg on Tuesday March 14, 2017 @01:53PM
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"excellent" makes it sound like Bill & Ted doing the translation, though. 'first-rate' is a common choice for that quote which is also unsatisfying - without the unwanted English connotations but also without any of the desirable Russian ones.
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Re:Chekhov: “Cultured people must, in my opinion, satisfy th...
by hanoz on Tuesday March 14, 2017 @08:56PM
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It must be a very small subset of English speakers for whom the word "excellent" can only be read in a Bill & Ted accent, so I suggest this is bogus argument.
Re:Chekhov: “Cultured people must, in my opinion, satisfy th...
by pvg on Tuesday March 14, 2017 @09:13PM
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Yes, it must be and yet 'excellent' is a really poor translation for this.
Re:Chekhov: “Cultured people must, in my opinion, satisfy th...
by caf on Tuesday March 14, 2017 @07:40PM
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Perhaps "superlative".
Re:Chekhov: “Cultured people must, in my opinion, satisfy th...
by pvg on Wednesday March 15, 2017 @04:43AM
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Yep, that's (roughly) in the same vein as 'first-rate'. What makes the translation tricky (if you speak Russian, apologies for explaining the obvious) is that while the word has uses other than literal 'beautiful' it is composed of a superlative prefix and the root for 'beauty'. The line itself is spoken by character in a play, a high-minded, provincial county doctor as Chekhov himself once was. 'must be excellent¹' is strained and clunky in English to begin with and none of the more natural-sounding replacements evoke the connotations of the original.
¹ Moreover, nobody ever translated the name of the Russian fairy tale Василиса Прекрасная as Vasilisa the Excellent.