Re:High US health care spending explained by its high materi...
by arcticbull on Sunday March 12, 2017 @07:13PM
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Neglects as in they don't consider that spend to be "waste" in the computation of whether Americans are paying more than a comparable country. IMO that should be subtracted off the top as none of that exists in a socialized system. They appear to be attributing those costs to the "higher standard of living".
Re:High US health care spending explained by its high materi...
by oscilloscope on Sunday March 12, 2017 @08:19PM
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Patient satisfaction is positively correlated with mortality. It does not necessarily indicate superior care. https://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/publish/news/newsroom/6223
Re:High US health care spending explained by its high materi...
by yummyfajitas on Sunday March 12, 2017 @08:42PM
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Then apparently a full 75% (rather than the merely 62.5% I thought) of the WHO's scores are nonsense, and not indicative of health care quality.
Re:High US health care spending explained by its high materi...
by lemming on Sunday March 12, 2017 @08:19PM
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I assume patient satisfaction only takes into account people who managed to become patients, and doesn't include people in the U.S. who needed treatment but couldn't get it.
Re:High US health care spending explained by its high materi...
by yummyfajitas on Sunday March 12, 2017 @08:42PM
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Why assume when you can read the report?
Re:High US health care spending explained by its high materi...
by lemming on Monday March 13, 2017 @05:31PM
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Because the report is 215 pages, searching for "satisfaction" doesn't produce anything useful, and most other surveys I've seen use the metrics in that way.
Re:High US health care spending explained by its high materi...
by huxley on Sunday March 12, 2017 @07:56PM
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Note: World Health Organization report is from 2000
Re:High US health care spending explained by its high materi...
by yummyfajitas on Sunday March 12, 2017 @07:58PM
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Do you have something more current?
Re:High US health care spending explained by its high materi...
by DanBC on Sunday March 12, 2017 @08:26PM
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We have something more relevant, which is that the US spends far more on healthcare than anywhere else, but is in the 10 OECD countries with the lowest life expectancy.
http://visual.ons.gov.uk/how-does-uk-healthcare-spending-com...
> While the USA outspent the UK on healthcare (£6,311 and £2,777 per person2 respectively) in 2014, average life expectancy at birth in the USA was 78.8, compared with 81.4 in the UK.
> Despite spending, by far, the largest amount on healthcare, the USA was among the 10 OECD countries with the lowest life expectancy.
Re:High US health care spending explained by its high materi...
by yummyfajitas on Sunday March 12, 2017 @08:47PM
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We are all aware that the US spends a lot on healthcare. The article we are discussing provides a good explanation of why.
The fact that health care and health outcomes are minimally correlated is well known; see RAND, Oregon, and lots of non-RCT studies that generally fail to find much correlation (e.g. this one, which made the rounds recently https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/25135... ). I'm not sure what the relevance of that is to this article, however.
Re:High US health care spending explained by its high materi...
by conistonwater on Sunday March 12, 2017 @09:00PM
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AFAICT, the article explains it only in the statistical sense of the word, not the plain-English sense, so I think you're missing the point of the comment.
Re:High US health care spending explained by its high materi...
by yummyfajitas on Sunday March 12, 2017 @09:05PM
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The plain english explanation is that Americans consume a lot of everything relative to GDP/capita, and health care is not an exception to this.
Re:High US health care spending explained by its high materi...
by throwaway2048 on Sunday March 12, 2017 @08:26PM
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what you really mean to ask is "Do you have something more current that supports my biases about healthcare"
The WHO ranks the US low because 62.5% of their score is a measure of inequality. Only 37.5% of their score is related to actual health care measures (health outcomes and patient satisfaction). The US scores #1 on patient satisfaction.
http://www.who.int/whr/2000/en/whr00_en.pdf