Preinstalled Malware Targeting Mobile Users

Re:Preinstalled Malware Targeting Mobile Users by CaptSpify on Saturday March 11, 2017 @11:30AM (#13845943)

Android security is indeed a joke. That doesn't make me eager to use a different device with a bunch of closed-source software. We really need better choices.

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Re:Preinstalled Malware Targeting Mobile Users by egwynn on Saturday March 11, 2017 @02:15PM (#13846698)

Yes, but isn’t that the problem with Android security updates? OEMs need to (and fail to) deliver closed-source binary blobs to end users. If open source is the real goal, then we* need to be demanding much more openness from OEMs.

* Not me strictly-speaking, because I’m an iOS user for the reasons specified by GP, among others.

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Re:Preinstalled Malware Targeting Mobile Users by dredmorbius on Saturday March 11, 2017 @03:41PM (#13847141)

Security updates, shovelware / crapware preloads, Google, and a slew of other stuff.

I'm exceedingly disappointed with all current mobile offerings. Holding out distant hope for Ubuntu.

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Re:Preinstalled Malware Targeting Mobile Users by CaptSpify on Saturday March 11, 2017 @06:14PM (#13847832)

> Holding out distant hope for Ubuntu.

me too! I've recently got one and am eager to get it going. But as it stands now, it's not an alternative.

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Re:Preinstalled Malware Targeting Mobile Users by bitmapbrother on Saturday March 11, 2017 @11:38AM (#13845993)

Why don't you enlighten us? Better yet, how about you show us by compromising an up to date Google device?

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Re:Preinstalled Malware Targeting Mobile Users by CaptSpify on Saturday March 11, 2017 @01:28PM (#13846483)

http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2015/05/android_...

There's a picture of their crappy security in practice. It needs much better and more granular controls for me to consider it secure.

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Re:Preinstalled Malware Targeting Mobile Users by nitrogen on Saturday March 11, 2017 @01:54PM (#13846607)

Android's network security model is atrocious, with full network access being in the "other" category that all apps get. You don't need to have root on a phone to go rogue and attack/analyze other devices, if the phone already gives your "no permissions" app full access.

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Re:Preinstalled Malware Targeting Mobile Users by bobsam on Saturday March 11, 2017 @05:59PM (#13847755)

The can only be one logical reason for this: to Google AdSense is more important than your privacy.

I can't take things like project zero seriously when the same company works hard to weaken Android privacy.

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Re:Preinstalled Malware Targeting Mobile Users by bitmapbrother on Saturday March 11, 2017 @02:36PM (#13846785)

So you have an issue with Android's permission model? Fair point, it could be more granular. Are permissions more granular on iOS? Because I'd like to block access to the Internet for some apps that display ads. I'm guessing probably not.

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Re:Preinstalled Malware Targeting Mobile Users by Buge on Saturday March 11, 2017 @05:15PM (#13847554)

Is there a permissions model on Linux, Mac, or Windows? This issue seems kind of unimportant. If a hacker can compromise the device, they can disregard all permissions.

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