Re:“Alcohol and caffeine created civilization”
by LoSboccacc on Thursday March 09, 2017 @06:37AM
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Also domestication could have had a part, once you have a herd nomadic life is much harder and you need to tend to pastures.
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Re:“Alcohol and caffeine created civilization”
by allendoerfer on Thursday March 09, 2017 @06:53AM
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Domestication also explains, why development has been slower in Africa. They had nothing to domesticate.
Re:“Alcohol and caffeine created civilization”
by XaspR8d on Thursday March 09, 2017 @09:43AM
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Is this a testable claim? Were, say, sheep progenitors easier to domesticate than ibexes or antelope or okapi?
Re:“Alcohol and caffeine created civilization”
by ecdavis on Thursday March 09, 2017 @10:45AM
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It's a claim made by Jared Diamond in Guns, Germs, and Steel. Wikipedia has a pretty well cited section on "Behavioural preadaptation"[0] however I can't speak to its accuracy as I haven't read any of the literature.
I'd be pretty interested in seeing a domesticatability comparison of the guanaco (wild predecessor of the domesticated llama still in existence today) vs. the zebra.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestication_of_animals#Behav...
Re:“Alcohol and caffeine created civilization”
by LoSboccacc on Thursday March 09, 2017 @10:39AM
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Well there's the American Natives, which are a conundrum because they both had hard animals to work with (I think they did manage to domesticate turkeys, but not buffaloes) but some still managed to farm and hybridize crops.
many points are debated here, there are also some links to start https://www.quora.com/Farming-Why-didnt-the-Native-Americans...
disclaimer: I know nothing of the subject and my initial hunch was pure conjecture.
Re:“Alcohol and caffeine created civilization”
by allendoerfer on Thursday March 09, 2017 @11:21AM
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There was a story on HN a few months ago. I do not have a reference, but it said, that all the African animals are either to dangerous or to fast. There are no horse, cow or pig equivalents. Some might seem like it but are actually not (like Zebras, look like horses, are actually very different).