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Re:Uber's 'hustle-oriented' culture becomes a black mark on ... by Flammy on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @01:58AM (#13818501)
I've heard pieces of this story, so thank you for the history and summary.

I suspect what you say is true, this is a 'black mark'. Working for Uber? Maybe if you are in upper management, would it be a similar "black mark" but even then, are you going to blame every C_O for their scandals? Probably not all. As for the 98% of employees? I doubt working for Uber will seriously impact their next job (and much less all following jobs).

Just think, today we don't hold it against middle management or individual contributors who happened to be employed at Enron at the wrong time...

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Re:Uber's 'hustle-oriented' culture becomes a black mark on ... by Broken_Hippo on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @10:38AM (#13820928)
I worked with a dude that got laid off in the whole Enron fallout. Everything was normal Friday when they left for the weekend. Monday morning, they found a box of personal items where their desks used to be.

He had some trouble finding a job afterwards, and wound up working at a call center (where I met him). Seems folks didn't want to take the chance that he just might have been in on it, nor did they want to un-train a toxic culture out of him. Really was a shame as the dude was a joy to work with.

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Re:Uber's 'hustle-oriented' culture becomes a black mark on ... by onion2k on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @02:53AM (#13818707)
Just think, today we don't hold it against middle management or individual contributors who happened to be employed at Enron at the wrong time...

Do you have enough knowledge of recruitment in the energy sector to make that remark?

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Re:Uber's 'hustle-oriented' culture becomes a black mark on ... by twunde on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @07:11AM (#13819698)
Actually after Enron was exposed, most former employees head a very difficult time getting hired. It was a major black mark, made worse by the fact that many employees had significant savings in Enron stock.
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Re:Uber's 'hustle-oriented' culture becomes a black mark on ... by whatok on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @08:36AM (#13820098)
This really depended on what their role was. Many star traders or analysts were able to get re-hired almost immediately or start their own firms without a problem. Here's an example:

https://books.google.com/books?id=qwDFL2xIX4kC&pg=PA88&lpg=P...

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Re:Uber's 'hustle-oriented' culture becomes a black mark on ... by pinewurst on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @11:37AM (#13821358)
That's a pretty good book, btw...
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Re:Uber's 'hustle-oriented' culture becomes a black mark on ... by n-exploit on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @07:28AM (#13819761)
Why would you lump these two together? I'm genuinely curious.
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Re:Uber's 'hustle-oriented' culture becomes a black mark on ... by Applejinx on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @07:36AM (#13819798)
Is it not obvious? They're practically identical in every respect, right down to corporate culture, grandiosity and being propped up on a titanic and imaginary valuation which is all that empowers them to carry out their activities.
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Re:Uber's 'hustle-oriented' culture becomes a black mark on ... by HelloNurse on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @01:07PM (#13822166)
I don't see much similarity except ridiculous valuation and the consequent financial threat level between a company that used to be normal, developed an infection of criminal behaviour on the part of a small group and collapsed because of epic law-preaking, and a company that began as a hugely funded startup, behaves badly from day 1, appears to be openly run by assholes for assholes, and hasn't broken the law on a catastrophic scale yet.
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Re:Uber's 'hustle-oriented' culture becomes a black mark on ... by anshumanf on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @02:31PM (#13822956)
> hasn't broken the law on a catastrophic scale yet

Debatable?

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Re:Uber's 'hustle-oriented' culture becomes a black mark on ... by HelloNurse on Thursday March 09, 2017 @04:56AM (#13828266)
Enron and Parmalat vaporized billions of stock value; that's what I call catastrophic scale. Note that on paper Uber is even bigger.
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Re:Uber's 'hustle-oriented' culture becomes a black mark on ... by eriktrautman on Wednesday March 08, 2017 @10:32AM (#13820886)
Having worked in the energy industry, the traders previously from Enron were some of the most sought after in the world since they basically invented many of the markets from the ground up and could get shit done. Not sure how the accountants fared, though...
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