Re:VoltDB is out, benchmarks against Cassandra
by seldo on Wednesday May 26, 2010 @04:00PM
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I'm at Gluecon, where Mike Stonebraker (CTO of VoltDB) gave a talk about Volt this morning. He's very clear that VoltDB is not a NoSQL product; it's a SQL product, but a next-generation SQL product. He says they've achieved enormous performance gains by keeping ACID compliance by throwing out tons of older tech still present in MySQL and Oracle.
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Re:VoltDB is out, benchmarks against Cassandra
by kemiller on Wednesday May 26, 2010 @05:53PM
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What sorts of older things did they throw out? And is there not even eventual persistence with VoltDB? Is there a recovery log or some such? Otherwise it seems like serious power event and you're toast.
Re:VoltDB is out, benchmarks against Cassandra
by beagle3 on Wednesday May 26, 2010 @07:00PM
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Well, a quick read of their white paper makes it look like they just copied the kdb design (http://cs.nyu.edu/shasha/papers/hpts.pdf - which they actually reference in one of their papers).
But perhaps they did something new as well?
edit: citeseer link was broken; replaced with link to shasha's website.
Re:VoltDB is out, benchmarks against Cassandra
by hdiedrich on Wednesday May 26, 2010 @08:48PM
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It's consistent, not only eventual consistent, it's k-safe, replicated and it's written to disk consistently at intervals you set. http://community.voltdb.com/node/54 (may require login). It's really pretty neat.
Re:VoltDB is out, benchmarks against Cassandra
by aquark on Wednesday May 26, 2010 @06:54PM
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Isn't the D in ACID for 'durable'? The blog post implies that this is an in memory store only ... I feel I must be missing something.
Re:VoltDB is out, benchmarks against Cassandra
by KERMIT on Wednesday May 26, 2010 @07:10PM
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"Durability" in that sense has nothing to do with how the data is stored, or how long it's available for.
It simply means that after a transaction has been reported as having been committed successfully, it won't ever be rolled back.
Re:VoltDB is out, benchmarks against Cassandra
by KERMIT on Wednesday May 26, 2010 @07:14PM
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It makes sense why he's saying that. The people responsible for large, important data sets usually have lots of money to spend storing that data. Since they care about their data, they know better than to get involved with NoSQL databases, and actively shun anything that claims to be a NoSQL database. The real money will flow towards those providing real databases.