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Re:Uncorrectable freedom and security issues on x86 platform... by wmf on Friday March 03, 2017 @03:47PM (#13786351)
Is Microsoft mandating all OEMs/hardware vendors to configure secure boot with a MS signing key?

Basically yes; it's required to get the Windows sticker. I haven't heard that MS charges money to sign bootloaders, though.

Re:Uncorrectable freedom and security issues on x86 platform... by sblom on Saturday March 04, 2017 @01:11AM (#13789589)
I believe that the Windows 10 logo requirements are exactly the opposite of that.

If you look at the UEFI requirements for Windows 10[1], specifically clauses 19 and 20, it says for non-ARM systems the user MUST be able to put Secure Boot into Custom signature-checking mode.

[1] https://msdn.microsoft.com/windows/hardware/commercialize/de...

Re:Uncorrectable freedom and security issues on x86 platform... by wmf on Saturday March 04, 2017 @01:29AM (#13789630)
They're not opposites. PCs are required to have secure boot and they're required to have MS's cert installed and they're required to be able to disable secure boot.
Re:Uncorrectable freedom and security issues on x86 platform... by vedranm on Saturday March 04, 2017 @04:45AM (#13790162)
This was true in Windows 8 times, but with Windows 10 the requirement to be able to turn off Secure Boot vanished: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windo...

The whole story around Secure Boot could be understood (even without a tinfoil hat) as a part of a slippery slope to lock out alternative OSes, highly recommended post: https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/general-discu...

Re:Uncorrectable freedom and security issues on x86 platform... by bogomipz on Friday March 03, 2017 @05:18PM (#13787361)
Thanks, I have to wonder how much of bureaucratic headache that is to get your bootloader signed.
Re:Uncorrectable freedom and security issues on x86 platform... by wmf on Friday March 03, 2017 @06:23PM (#13787872)
James Bottomley navigated the bureaucracy and lived to tell about it: https://blog.hansenpartnership.com/adventures-in-microsoft-u...
Re:Uncorrectable freedom and security issues on x86 platform... by bogomipz on Saturday March 04, 2017 @02:44PM (#13792568)
Oh interesting, thanks for the link.