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Re:The new Nokia phones are here: Nokia 6, 5, 3 & 3310 by oblio on Sunday February 26, 2017 @03:01PM (#13739452)
I have a Sony Xperia Z5 Compact that just updated to Android 7.0. It's not 7.1 yet, but it's quite up to date. I think Sony updates their phones quite often.
Re:The new Nokia phones are here: Nokia 6, 5, 3 & 3310 by trome on Sunday February 26, 2017 @03:45PM (#13739739)
Sony is one of the few Android vendors that mainlines the device drivers for their hardware, so you can reasonably build the newest AOSP version and go to 7.1 if you feel the inclination.
Re:The new Nokia phones are here: Nokia 6, 5, 3 & 3310 by untog on Sunday February 26, 2017 @05:23PM (#13740356)
IIRC that excludes their custom camera software though, so the quality of your photos declines when you even do so much as root your phone.
Re:The new Nokia phones are here: Nokia 6, 5, 3 & 3310 by muppetman on Sunday February 26, 2017 @06:16PM (#13740588)
How would rooting your phone (to be clear: enabling the ability to "su" to root, thus giving you full power over your system) screw your camera/image quality? I totally understand flashing 3rd Party ROMs where they can't speak to the hardware as well.
Re:The new Nokia phones are here: Nokia 6, 5, 3 & 3310 by untog on Sunday February 26, 2017 @10:30PM (#13741645)
I'm not an expert, but it has something to do with rooting invalidating DRM keys. It was circumvented for the Z3C:

https://blog.al4.co.nz/2015/01/good-news-for-z3-compact-owne...

But it seems like it was a very deliberate choice by Sony.

Re:The new Nokia phones are here: Nokia 6, 5, 3 & 3310 by remir on Sunday February 26, 2017 @06:18PM (#13740602)
I don't know who is in charge of Sony's smartphone business, but boy did they fucked up. What a confusing mess. Sony used to be a huge brand, innovative and look what happened.

I mean, they had everything; the design chops, the brand power, the tech, the Sony Stores, etc... Everybody knows the iPhone, Sams's Galaxy, LG G series, Moto phones, but Sony really failed to market their Xperia phones properly.

Just for fun, I went to Sony Canada's website to look at their phones and they have 21 models on the page. I'm not joking. https://www.sonymobile.com/ca-fr/products/phones/

Re:The new Nokia phones are here: Nokia 6, 5, 3 & 3310 by sprayk on Sunday February 26, 2017 @07:37PM (#13740970)
I used that phone (the unlocked international w/ fingerprint scanner) for about a year, but the heat problems in the one I had left me helpless/incommunicado in a few inconvenient situations. Eventually preordered a Pixel and haven't looked back.

The only good Android phones I've used (and I've been using Android since the G1) have been ones Google had a hand in: Nexuses, the original Moto X, and the Pixel. The Sony came close, but the heat problems killed it for me.

I would still jump on a well done, small, Android phone.

Re:The new Nokia phones are here: Nokia 6, 5, 3 & 3310 by wapz on Monday February 27, 2017 @01:17AM (#13742284)
If you're referring to the Z5C with the 810 I can tell you every phone that year with the 810 and some with the 808 ran very, very hot. Most companies ended up having the software throttle the processor to keep it from getting so hot. I've never used a sony personally but I hear lots of good things about them (except lack of models in the US).
Re:The new Nokia phones are here: Nokia 6, 5, 3 & 3310 by dragonne on Sunday February 26, 2017 @06:19PM (#13740606)
I have a Z5 Compact as well. Nice little phone, and quite fast. However, I don't think that many developers test their apps on a sub-5" screen, because I've encountered issues with several apps where controls overlap. For example, in VLC's file list the context menu button overlaps with the invisible scroll bar track. It is easy to scroll accidentally. Amazon Music has exactly the same problem, too.

The Android ecosystem is difficult to recommend, and a small Android phone is even more difficult to recommend.

Re:The new Nokia phones are here: Nokia 6, 5, 3 & 3310 by gcb0 on Sunday February 26, 2017 @06:39PM (#13740713)
vlc ui is a mess regardless of screen size or even platform.
Re:The new Nokia phones are here: Nokia 6, 5, 3 & 3310 by anlif on Sunday February 26, 2017 @05:02PM (#13740216)
Also have this. Perfect size on this phone, and waterproof. Looks almost new after two years.