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Re:The power of role models by skookumchuck on Saturday February 25, 2017 @03:48PM (#13733733)
I personally know lots of women who are multimillionaires. Maybe you should be asking them why they don't start VC funds. There is nobody to tell them they can't. Why doesn't Marissa Meyers start one? or Melinda Gates? or Chelsea Clinton? or Madonna? or Ellen Pao? or Oprah?
Re:The power of role models by SwellJoe on Saturday February 25, 2017 @04:07PM (#13733826)
I can't ask them, because I don't personally know any women who are multimillionaires (except Jessica Livingston, who already does more than nearly anyone on this front). I do personally know a number of men who are multi-millionaires (even a few billionaires). All of them invest in tech; for most of them, I do not know their criteria for choosing what to invest in, but I would guess they try to avoid gender and racial bias...but, what we do not see and understand we can't necessarily address.
Re:The power of role models by skookumchuck on Saturday February 25, 2017 @04:28PM (#13733941)
Talk to any stock broker. You'll find there are plenty of women with substantial investment portfolios. I don't see how it is the fault of men if those women choose not to fund women startups.
Re:The power of role models by grzm on Saturday February 25, 2017 @04:47PM (#13734040)
I'm trying to understand where you're coming from with "I don't see how it is the fault of men if those women choose not to fund women startups."

I can follow a chain of logic that goes something like:

- there's a lack of gender diversity in tech, in that there are disproportionately fewer women.

- this is a problem we should solve

- given that there's more men in tech, they're somehow to blame

Is this an accurate representation of how you get to "I don't see how it is the fault of men"?

I don't see (most) people blaming men as intentionally causing this problem. I see plenty of people, men and women, at trying to figure out how to understand the disproportionate lack of women and do something about it. Similarly, I don't see it as the responsibility of women to do this on their own.

If I've completely misinterpreted your comment, it wouldn't be the first time. I don't mean to put words in your mouth. Please do elaborate and correct me if and where I've misunderstood.

Re:The power of role models by skookumchuck on Saturday February 25, 2017 @05:33PM (#13734260)
I see men being blamed, whether they are intentional or not. I also see men being put forward as being responsible for a solution. I.e. that women cannot succeed without the aid, approval, and encouragement of men.

I view this as an unfortunate sexist and patronizing attitude, and is ultimately a destructive one.

Women do not need the aid, approval, or encouragement from men to succeed in tech. This applies to everyone else, too. There's never been a time of more opportunity for everyone in the US.

If people need excuses for failure, there's an endless list of them. There is no fixing that (like how my coming up with a few thousand to start a business was dismissed.) Successful people don't look for excuses and don't make excuses. They go out and get things done.

Re:The power of role models by grzm on Saturday February 25, 2017 @05:37PM (#13734280)
Thanks for taking the time to respond. In this thread, can you provide examples of men being blamed or being held solely responsible for a solution? What percentage of the comments do so?
Re:The power of role models by skookumchuck on Saturday February 25, 2017 @07:15PM (#13734774)
> The women in tech pipeline is a leaky, toxic pipeline that results in talented women being driven out of the industry.

This thread is about men being the gatekeepers of financing. The parent article says:

> Men have the power to help fix those things, but they also should have the courage to cede the stage to women more often, to fight the stupid bias that keeps women from excelling in the field. It may take proactive behavior, like choosing a women over a man when growing your team, just because, or promoting women more freely.

Re:The power of role models by grzm on Saturday February 25, 2017 @08:15PM (#13735038)
I guess I don't read either of those as blaming men solely or saying that it's solely men's responsibility to do something about it. It's pointing out that there are things men can do, which I think is valid, but it doesn't imply that it's only up to men.

Perhaps we're talking past each other.

Re:The power of role models by watwut on Saturday February 25, 2017 @04:18PM (#13733880)
Arent most VC funds playing with someone elses money? Like various retirement funds and whatever?