The use of the word 'fuck' doesn't mean it's uncivil. I'm merely making a point as forcefully as the subject demands.

Suggesting someone should leave a forum because you don't have the patience to read what they are writing is uncivil. Just don't read it and move on.

My point is in the original post but you are making it so much better than I ever could.

You haven't made point one. Give it a fucking rest.

We've banned this account for breaking the HN guidelines. Would you please stop creating accounts to do this with?

Everybody's political feelings are inflamed these days, so we all need to work together to prevent this site from going down in flames.

I probably kept it going for further than I should have also. Apologies.

I understand and accept some people disagree and probably have valid reasons for doing so. Fine. Accepted.

But back the original point, I just don't understand nor get on any level the mouth foaming hatred. It doesn't appear rational. Seems like disagreement would be enough and so much more effective.