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Re:Why Chinese Is So Damned Hard by Jd on Saturday May 22, 2010 @05:03PM (#1371051)
Is not the "grammar" you refer the largely loose particles because of the lack of formal grammar, rather than the reverse? If so, I standby my original statement that the grammar (meaning formal grammar) is trivial.

Why not give an example of a grammar point that you think I am missing?

Re:Why Chinese Is So Damned Hard by tokenadult on Saturday May 22, 2010 @08:37PM (#1371386)
I've already cited books in this thread, and they list dozens of features of Modern Standard Chinese grammar that are confusing even to speakers of other Sinitic languages.

An example I often bring up to English speakers who are learning Chinese is that they have to learn that the Chinese verbal system is based on aspect

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_aspect

rather than on tense. Many native English speakers misspeak Chinese as a second language because they struggle to impose their sense of tense on a tenseless language, and meanwhile get Chinese aspect marking all wrong. That can lead to misunderstandings in either direction, as my extensive acquaintance with persons who speak both languages often shows.

Re:Why Chinese Is So Damned Hard by Jd on Saturday May 22, 2010 @09:55PM (#1371538)
Aspect is trivial.