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Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by tylerwhipple on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @02:12PM (#13698593)
I went from Salt Lake City to San Francisco as well. I have always been quite liberal on issues and it had never been a problem, but when discussing issues in SF I felt I had to be very careful with what I supported. I always felt my friendships/employment was threatened if I disagreed.

I had a good friend/startup founder once say anyone who supported Trump deserved to be fired and blacklisted.

Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by dahart on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @02:32PM (#13698904)
Ha! I'm also a Salt Lake native transplant to San Fran. In Utah, I am a socialist pinko commie. In San Francisco I'm (apparently) somewhere between a libertarian and a tea party republican.

At least, that's my story. I'm exaggerating for effect, and in the spirit of fun. But I was literally publicly berated at work once on the company forum for not being liberal enough, not having views consistent with California democrats, and not contributing enough money to the party.

I never feared for my job though, that's awful. I could have actually been a conservative and I wouldn't have had to worry. There were conservatives in the company, though they did keep rather quiet about their views.

Someone who makes a blanket statement about firing anyone with impure thoughts... it happens, but let's hope it was only a moment of weakness or anger on your friend's part.

Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by nojvek on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @09:57PM (#13702591)
I believe a large part of America wanted to say "fuck you" to the big system. Trump was the candidate for red states, Sanders for democrats.

I do agree with some of trumps policies. I don't agree with his behaviours though.

The simplistic tax reform makes sense. A bigger deductible would mean poor people would have middle class would have a larger net gain.

I support infrastructure investment.

I support stricter high skilled immigration.

Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by jenkstom on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @03:12PM (#13699397)
It's not any different in, say, Oklahoma. Just the reverse.
Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by dllthomas on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @04:00PM (#13699894)
Doesn't mean we shouldn't do better, of course.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by tjalfi on Sunday February 26, 2017 @12:58AM (#13735913)
Your friend should bear in mind that political affiliation is a protected class in California (http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/california-employment...).
Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by TheSpiceIsLife on Saturday February 25, 2017 @06:06AM (#13731037)
When I lived in a bigger city I was constantly commenting on how it always seemed to be the most left leaning people saying things like "someone should shoot that bastard" in reference to some politician or another.

It's interesting to note that the word "fired" in an employment context is the same word used to describe what occurs when a gun is operated.

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Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by austenallred on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @05:47PM (#13700890)
So by supporting Clinton would you implicitly be agreeing to bombing children in Syria?

That's just a silly line of reasoning

Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by croon on Wednesday February 22, 2017 @04:44AM (#13704356)
Trump has already killed American children in Yemen.

However incompetent I think he is, I doubt that was deliberate though, and is besides the point.

Every president will inevitably make military decisions that will lead to civilian casualties. It's never nice, and it's never "okay", but it's also extremely difficult to avoid, in a conflict.

Repealing ACA is purely political, with very real effects on tens of millions of Americans losing coverage, benefitting only rich people.

It's not an unavoidable side effect. Just fucking don't do it. Your comparison is ludicrous.

Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by Mithaldu on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @08:00PM (#13701921)
After having educated myself with the help of people smarter than me on what you mean with the Syria comment:

Your trying to claim your statement is equivalent to mine is silly.

Syria is a conflict zone where the government has lost control and the USA along with 50 countries from the NATO is trying to help get the situation back under control. Nobody involved there is actually intending to hurt any civilians. In fact, the USA pulling out would likely cause a lot more deaths. (I'd like to remind you of the syrian government attacking their own civilians with chemical weapons.) Further, under no other candidate would substantially less deaths happen in that area, and particularly with Pence being a noted hawk there'll likely be more involvement there than under Clinton.

Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by Mithaldu on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @06:06PM (#13701060)
There is no subtlety in Pence's actions on the needle program.

PS: Bernie would've been the sane choice for your country. But hey, what can you do in a two party system.

Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by flukus on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @06:55PM (#13701461)
You avoided the question entirely, does your vote for Clinton mean you implicitly agree to bombing children in Syria?
Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by Mithaldu on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @07:04PM (#13701516)
I'm not entirely sure how exactly you get to that exact end result from her. To answer that i'd need to know more. Think you can provide an explanation?
Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by flukus on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @07:06PM (#13701539)
OK, let's avoid hypotheticals entirely. I'm going to assume you voted for Obama? If so, does that mean that you implicitly agree to everyone killed (guilty and innocent) by his orders?
Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by Mithaldu on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @07:13PM (#13701585)
I didn't vote for anyone, i'm a German. As to the question: I don't believe any other candidate would've had less people dead in the relevant conflict areas. Further, Obama himself wasn't actively aiming to have civilians suffer through his actions. Pence has unequivocally done so.

There's a wide gulf between deaths caused despite one's best intentions, and deaths caused directly by one's intentions. I believe US laws put such deaths in two distinct categories.

E: I also answered the syria question in a post further up.

Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by mozumder on Tuesday February 21, 2017 @07:33PM (#13701707)
I voted for Obama, and yes, I agree with his orders.
Re:What I Heard from Trump Supporters by tylerwhipple on Wednesday February 22, 2017 @02:53AM (#13703941)
I didn't vote for Trump, however I did have some positive things to say about a few things he supported. Overall I felt Hilary was the better choice, however expressing anything not negative about Trump caused serious contention.