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Re:Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions ... by jdlshore on Saturday February 18, 2017 @05:57PM (#13677171)
> Is it really sensible for FF to give up its advantage...?

That's the bet-the-company question, isn't it? Only history will tell, but I think the judgement of Mozilla in this matter is better than that of the commenters on this website, who have less data, represent a minority of users, and are prone to complaining.

Re:Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions ... by 4bpp on Saturday February 18, 2017 @06:10PM (#13677210)
What evidence, short of Mozilla going ahead with it and Firefox market share tanking over the course of a few months, would be sufficient to persuade you that this is a bad move?

(I do imagine that there should at least be ample precedent out there for the "management of ~10% market share company decides to sacrifice strong point of its own product to pursue the strong point of the market leader instead" pattern. I can think of several failed examples, but no successful ones - are there any? If not, I believe that should count as evidence that this is a common bias in company judgement.)

Re:Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions ... by jdlshore on Saturday February 18, 2017 @06:20PM (#13677235)
Market data from a reputable source, preferably one with extensive experience in the browser market, showing:

a) Favoring extensions over browsing experience (rendering speed, jank, etc) is likely to improve Mozilla's market share.

b) Market-relevant extensions are not going to be ported to WebExtensions.

Speculation and personal preference is not persuasive.

Re:Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions ... by 4bpp on Saturday February 18, 2017 @06:27PM (#13677266)
Regarding b): at least the author of DownThemAll!, which has ~1.2m users per [1] (which makes it the non-adblocker plugin with the highest number of users I can find), has come out saying they won't [2].

...and regarding a), I don't think that's all there is - FOSS projects at this point have a quite long track record of changes that were championed by the marketing crowd over the skepticism and outright opposition of the "fanatic techies" of the kind found here, such as KDE's Plasma Mobile and Mozilla's own phone OS, which turned out dead in the water exactly as the "unrepresentative" crowd expected.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/downthemall/

[2] https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/dev-addons/2016-December/...

Re:Firefox 57 as the first release where only WebExtensions ... by alphapapa on Monday February 20, 2017 @04:12PM (#13690938)
> I think the judgement of Mozilla in this matter is better than that of the commenters on this website, who have less data, represent a minority of users, and are prone to complaining.

This is the same as saying, "The judgment of the company is better than the judgment of their customers who say they will stop using their product if the company follows through on their plans."