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Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it by barney54 on Friday February 17, 2017 @04:41AM (#13667083)
I'm not sure the data support the claim, at least in the US, that we under provision transit. We slight subsidizing driving, but not by much, and I agree that that should stop. Here's the numbers. http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=12133
Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it by TulliusCicero on Friday February 17, 2017 @06:00AM (#13667396)
The data in there is incredibly misleading. They're comparing total highway miles driven to total transit miles, even though transit is disproportionately skewed towards dense urban areas where everything is more expensive (and I suspect that highway miles are skewed the opposite direction).

Plus it completely ignores any non-highway driving subsidies, like tax revenue going to local roads and public parking areas, government regulations that mandate parking minimums, etc.

AND it ignores how valuable the land is that roads exist on, that could potentially be used for something else. Now obviously we do have to set aside some land for transportation purposes, but with cars, you have to set aside a lot MORE land, so you have to factor in that subsidy as well. E.g. if the city could, by switching to denser transportation modes, lease out a bunch of land to private companies and earn a million dollars a year, then that's a million dollar a year subsidy.

Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it by coldtea on Friday February 17, 2017 @05:06AM (#13667196)
>We slight subsidizing driving, but not by much

Must also factor in the untold billions used by the military to ensure cheap oil.

Re:Let’s not demonize driving, just stop subsidizing it by AnthonyMouse on Friday February 17, 2017 @05:23AM (#13667263)
That's sort of fair, but only if the "stop subsidizing cars" money comes from reducing what we spend on the military, not some attempt to rebalance things by imposing a regressive tax on driving without doing anything to make driving-alternatives more viable.