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Re:Encrypted email is still a pain by m3rc on Monday February 13, 2017 @01:26PM (#13637495)
I agree with not using WhatsApp due to it's ties to FB and metadata issues, but Telegram is arguably even worse. They've been (rightfully) panned for implementing their own crypto and doing it poorly. You should be using Signal on a phone if you're trying to use a secure messenger.
Re:Encrypted email is still a pain by reitanqild on Monday February 13, 2017 @02:05PM (#13637801)
You should be using Signal on a phone if you're trying to use a secure messenger.

I am not trying to use a secure messenger. I am trying to use a good one without ratting on my friends to the worst (as in size x badness) company I am aware of. Ohh, and I don't want to be be part of their network effect either.)

Re:Encrypted email is still a pain by lmm on Tuesday February 14, 2017 @07:19AM (#13642989)
All reasonable views, but I don't think that's a Telegram given their track record. At this point I'd put more trust in a transport-encrypted-without-end-to-end messenger than Telegram, and there are plenty of good options in that space (e.g. Discord, or hell, AIM). And if you want genuine security there are good decentralised options: XMPP (Conversations et al), Riot/Matrix, possibly Wire.