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Re:Encrypted email is still a pain by RyanZAG on Monday February 13, 2017 @10:01AM (#13635697)
Google's embrace-extend-extinguish destroyed XMPP. They made their chat system XMPP compatible for a short time which caused many people to swap to their solution. When they ended support, most users simply stopped using XMPP.
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Re:Encrypted email is still a pain by problems on Monday February 13, 2017 @10:08AM (#13635748)
Did you also notice that Google's messaging system pretty much died out around that point in favor of Skype and similar?

I used to see people mention GTalk all the time, but I haven't seen anything similar in years. No one has mentioned G+ or Allo. That decision by Google may have been the thing that killed its user base.

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Re:Encrypted email is still a pain by ryanbrunner on Monday February 13, 2017 @11:11AM (#13636311)
Hangouts (which I think GTalk turned into) still has some usage - certainly as a quick video conf call solution, and somewhat for text messaging. It definitely doesn't seem to have much of a future though since Google released a bunch of other competing chat applications.
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Re:Encrypted email is still a pain by gregmac on Monday February 13, 2017 @12:04PM (#13636790)
It's unfortunate because Hangouts is still really awesome. It works really well for video chat (including group chat), but more importantly it works great with multiple devices. I can get a message on my phone, laptop or PC, and reply anywhere, with the conversation and notifications synchronized. I nearly always have my phone with me, but it's really nice to be able to just send someone a link from my PC, for example.

It looks like Telegram has multi-device support, but then this kind of thing scares me:

> Q: How are you going to make money out of this?

> We believe in fast and secure messaging that is also 100% free.

> Pavel Durov, who shares our vision, supplied Telegram with a generous donation, so we have quite enough money for the time being. If Telegram runs out, we will introduce non-essential paid options to support the infrastructure and finance developer salaries. But making profits will never be a goal for Telegram.

That's not very compelling in terms of investing my effort to switch.

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Re:Encrypted email is still a pain by my_ghola on Monday February 13, 2017 @12:03PM (#13636782)
No, it turned into Hangouts, which is alive and kicking, specially for companies using Google Apps.
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Re:Encrypted email is still a pain by x0x0 on Monday February 13, 2017 @02:57PM (#13638213)
But really only internally, at least in my experience
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Re:Encrypted email is still a pain by kyrra on Monday February 13, 2017 @12:25PM (#13636980)
The rumor[0] was that Google killed XMPP because Microsoft was doing 1-way federation (Microsoft would not broadcast availability status or typing indicators).

[0] http://www.ucstrategies.com/unified-communications-strategie...

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Re:Encrypted email is still a pain by DiThi on Monday February 13, 2017 @11:42AM (#13636597)
Even worse, Google never federated with encryption, then Hangouts killed group chats which were XMPP compatible. A few friends and I resisted with several XMPP accounts until they moved to Hangouts. Not to mention all the JEPs that solved the same problems as Hangouts that Google plain ignored for years.
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