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Re:Four Kinds of Dystopia by paulpauper on Saturday February 11, 2017 @12:29PM (#13623586)
This is something I hear a lot, but the evidence of collapse and disintegration, imho, doesn't really bear itself out. Rather then there being more unrest, social media and the media is amplifying unrest wherever it offers, whereas in the past , generations ago, such unrest would have gone unreported http://greyenlightenment.com/why-isnt-there-more-civil-unres...

When WW2 ended, America, Britain, an Russia were on top...Britain's position has fallen, but China and Japan are now 2 and 3 but America is still solidly #1. As shown by Pinker, the evidence since WW2 suggests more peace (the Long Peace)and less conflict, not more.

Trump's rise to power is more symbolic of national angst than in terms of substantive change in policy. I predict there will be some disappointment by former Trump voters who think that Trump is going to be this huge reformer.

Re:Four Kinds of Dystopia by rangibaby on Saturday February 11, 2017 @01:24PM (#13623894)
> Trump's rise to power is more symbolic of national angst than in terms of substantive change in policy. I predict there will be some disappointment by former Trump voters who think that Trump is going to be this huge reformer.

Literally Obama. This election really burned me out on US politics to be honest. Seeing smart people I generally respect instantly taking the opposite position to Trump no matter what has been a big bummer. It's a bizzaro mirror image of the last 8 years and is really tiring and disheartening.

Re:Four Kinds of Dystopia by chillwaves on Saturday February 11, 2017 @03:19PM (#13624560)
Which positions have been taken by Trump that you feel are so good that it should cut cross all biases etc?

I mean, some people get it wrong sometimes. Sure. And Trump seems to get it wrong a lot. I'm not so sure there should be any position by Trump that can be seen as indisputably good.

Sounds like false equivalence on your part.

Re:Four Kinds of Dystopia by true_religion on Saturday February 11, 2017 @05:55PM (#13625344)
Indisputably good? No. But his stances aren't indisputably evil either as is often said. I find myself in the curious position of agreeing with some of Trump's actions but vehemently disagreeing with his reasoning behind them.
Re:Four Kinds of Dystopia by eli_gottlieb on Saturday February 11, 2017 @09:58PM (#13626394)
> Which positions have been taken by Trump that you feel are so good that it should cut cross all biases etc?

Reforming the H1B visa system. I think Trump yelled about it and a Democratic Congresswoman from California put forward a fairly sane bill. We'll see what happens.

Re:Four Kinds of Dystopia by kakarot on Saturday February 11, 2017 @01:36PM (#13623969)
Makes you wonder if you're correctly assessing your own resilience to the propaganda arm of CorpGov.