Re:DuckDuckGo Searches Are Not Anonymous
by imp on Wednesday May 19, 2010 @03:27PM
(#1362036)
I can't figure out what the trivial fix is. Would proxying all S3 requests through his server fix the issue, or do the headers get passed through to Amazon anyway?
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One fix is to not directly send the users to the result page. Instead link to a redirect script on the ddg servers i.e, duckduckgo.com/goto.php?link=http://search-result.com/ and then have goto.php remove the REFERER from the request headers.
Not sure if that will work in all browsers, iirc a 301 or a 302 can still pass those headers on. The only trick I know of that will not do that is by using a 'meta refresh' with a time set to '0', but that has bad implications for the working of the 'back' button.
I haven't tested this out, but I don't see why something like this wouldn't work...
<?php
header("Location: the-result.com");
header("Referer: ");
?>Referer is a header the browser sends, Location is a header the server sends. Also, the Location header needs either a relative url on the local machine or a fully qualified one. In this case it would have needed a fully qualified one.
So maybe you should have tested it ;) ?
I wouldn't say there is a trivial fix. One option would be to encrypt the search term client-side with blowfish (or some other 2-way hash scheme) and use that as the url string.
Re:DuckDuckGo Searches Are Not Anonymous
by gizmomagico on Thursday May 20, 2010 @01:35AM
(#1363322)
Erm.. You probably mean something like a "symmetric block cipher", such as Blowfish. The point of (cryptographic) hashes is that they're one way only.
But as for a fix, at least Opera offers the option of never sending referrer information. That would be enough in this case.
Firefox offers that option as well - you just have to go to about:config and set network.http.sendRefererHeader to 0.
Don't put offsite images in secure searches.
These aren't really offsite images. ddgw.s3.amazonaws.com is a server instance run by DDG. It just happens to live in Amazon's cloud.
Yes, but the headers are sent in plaintext.
I don't think they are actually: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/499591/are-https-urls-enc...
That was about the headers to the image server which was not using https at the time I believe ?
No, they aren't.
Not any more but they were when that was written. See: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1362122
Re:DuckDuckGo Searches Are Not Anonymous
by mike-cardwell on Wednesday May 19, 2010 @05:07PM
(#1362355)
I think you might be confusing S3 with EC2? I think "offsite images" is an apt description for stuff served from Amazons web frontend to S3... DDG don't run it, they just upload the content to it.