Tesla factory worker calls for a union: “We need to stand up for ourselves”

Re:Tesla factory worker calls for a union: “We need to stand... by danielahn on Thursday February 09, 2017 @03:38PM (#13610702)

> but at the same time what Tesla is doing is much bigger than the individual

I don't think you really believe that - if you truly internalized this, then isn't the conclusion that you should go find any way possible to contribute to them as well?

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Re:Tesla factory worker calls for a union: “We need to stand... by kneel on Thursday February 09, 2017 @03:56PM (#13610889)

I actually do believe it and that's why I reserved a model 3.

Maybe I just bought into their rhetoric, maybe. But I believe that the company's vision is more directed at sustainable transportation rather than profit.

They have worked really hard and brought in a lot of investment working towards an electric car. If Musk was truly profit driven he could have made a lot more money, a lot faster by directing his energy elsewhere.

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Re:Tesla factory worker calls for a union: “We need to stand... by blub on Thursday February 09, 2017 @04:11PM (#13611022)

Reserving a model 3 is pretty weak.

If you really believe in them you should work 12 hour shifts in one of their factories, making the dream happen and saving the planet.

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Re:Tesla factory worker calls for a union: “We need to stand... by kneel on Thursday February 09, 2017 @04:18PM (#13611080)

I guess I'm coming across as too idealistic if trolls start throwing daggers.

Sorry not sorry

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Re:Tesla factory worker calls for a union: “We need to stand... by grzm on Thursday February 09, 2017 @04:25PM (#13611142)

if you truly internalized this, then isn't the conclusion that you should go find any way possible to contribute to them as well?

Everyone has limited resources. What you chose to contribute to and your level of contribution will vary. For example, commitments to one's family may preclude contributing to Tesla beyond reserving a Model 3 untenable. This is independent of one's belief in the impact of what Tesla is doing.

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Re:Tesla factory worker calls for a union: “We need to stand... by danielahn on Thursday February 09, 2017 @06:13PM (#13611927)

Why? The argument being made is that the workers should suck it up and accept the low pay and grueling working conditions because of the importance of the work Tesla is doing. If you accept this argument, then why can't I also say that you should simply accept that giving up on your commitments to your family is also a necessary sacrifice?

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Re:Tesla factory worker calls for a union: “We need to stand... by grzm on Thursday February 09, 2017 @06:33PM (#13612049)

Point well taken. I agree that reserving a Model 3 is not equivalent to working in the conditions described in the submission. Thanks for pushing back!

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Re:Tesla factory worker calls for a union: “We need to stand... by kneel on Thursday February 09, 2017 @06:37PM (#13612066)

>The argument being made is that the workers should suck it up and accept the low pay and grueling working conditions because of the importance of the work Tesla is doing.

I did not make that argument whatsoever. You made that up.

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