News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Vim's 25th anniversary and the release of Vim 8 by robteix on Thursday February 09, 2017 @11:26AM (#13608051)
In the early 2000s, I was at a friend's place with John "maddog" Hall, who was talking to a group of us about the future of software and the promises of quantum computing.

He said something that I always found interesting. He was talking about how in a decade or so we would probably be using software and tools that would be unrecognizable to us at that moment, but after a pause he added: "but we'll still be writing code with vi." :)

Re:Vim's 25th anniversary and the release of Vim 8 by vkou on Thursday February 09, 2017 @01:29PM (#13609453)
Having used Windows, Linux, Visual Studio, Eclipse, and Perforce in both the early 2000s, and today, I'd daresay that they are quite recognizable. Much more usable (Except for Eclipse), but still quite recognizable.
Re:Vim's 25th anniversary and the release of Vim 8 by noir_lord on Thursday February 09, 2017 @01:38PM (#13609551)
I'd agree with that.

I actually can't think of a tool I use day to day that I wouldn't recognise from 20 years ago even the really good stuff would be obvious in it's intent (intellij etc).

I'm not really sure where I'd be able to improve significantly on day to day tool usage, maybe a shell that doesn't use bash as the language would be nice (I know there are other shells but bash/dash are the defaults on pretty much everything I touch I can get to a command line on).

Re:Vim's 25th anniversary and the release of Vim 8 by ThrustVectoring on Thursday February 09, 2017 @03:07PM (#13610421)
Slack app on your smartphone?
Re:Vim's 25th anniversary and the release of Vim 8 by wingerlang on Thursday February 09, 2017 @10:52PM (#13613078)
That's just IRC on a small computer though.
Re:Vim's 25th anniversary and the release of Vim 8 by noir_lord on Friday February 10, 2017 @03:35AM (#13614047)
Sometimes the 'just' is where the magic is, we all know that slack is just a pretty irc that end users can grok.

That 'just' is worth a fee billion dollars though.

Makes you wonder if there are other tools in our world that could be a 'just' away from a billion dollars.

Re:Vim's 25th anniversary and the release of Vim 8 by wingerlang on Friday February 10, 2017 @03:49AM (#13614112)
Sure but I think that it is still recognisable, which was the question.

25 year ago isn't //that// long ago? People using IRC at that point (I guess techies) surely would recognise it fairly easy.

Similarly you could look at a brand new Tesla and recognise it from a 1st car model or even a wagon.

Re:Vim's 25th anniversary and the release of Vim 8 by pvg on Friday February 10, 2017 @04:37AM (#13614293)
People using IRC at that point (I guess techies)

College students, mostly.

Re:Vim's 25th anniversary and the release of Vim 8 by noir_lord on Saturday February 11, 2017 @06:20AM (#13622157)
I think I first used it ~1995 so that would be 22 years.

Hung around for about 5-6 years and it's been around in the background ever since, just got back into using it recently as one of the frameworks I use has a decent IRC channel and an even more decent offtopic, nice bunch of folks and with the ability to throw it in the background it gives a water cooler feeling when I'm working on my own and need to bounce an idea of people.

Re:Vim's 25th anniversary and the release of Vim 8 by innocentoldguy on Thursday February 09, 2017 @12:22PM (#13608723)
So, he was right about at least one thing then. :)
Re:Vim's 25th anniversary and the release of Vim 8 by bubblesocks on Thursday February 09, 2017 @06:03PM (#13611863)
Not sure why you're getting down-voted. Development tools look pretty much the same as they did in 2000, languages all feel quite similar, and quantum computing still isn't ubiquitous. We are, indeed, still using Vim though, and quite happily, I might add.
Re:Vim's 25th anniversary and the release of Vim 8 by humanrebar on Friday February 10, 2017 @07:25AM (#13614881)
CI and deployment tools have matured a lot. I'd call them development tools.