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Re:Russians Engineer a Slot Machine Cheat that Casinos Can't... by artursapek on Monday February 06, 2017 @09:42AM (#13579794)
I know I have read stories about this technique being used before. Doesn't it require special hardware and impeccable timing on your person to take advantage of it?
Re:Russians Engineer a Slot Machine Cheat that Casinos Can't... by matheweis on Monday February 06, 2017 @09:47AM (#13579836)
Article indicates that an iphone is the special hardware. It also handles the timing, even preemptively signals the player when to go based on his/her reaction time.

Timing doesn't have to be perfect - only enough to offset the house edge.

Re:Russians Engineer a Slot Machine Cheat that Casinos Can't... by macintux on Monday February 06, 2017 @10:10AM (#13580060)
Well, iPhone is the viewing mechanism for engineers on the other side of the world to do the real work.
Re:Russians Engineer a Slot Machine Cheat that Casinos Can't... by netsharc on Monday February 06, 2017 @10:54AM (#13580564)
Interesting how they're doing it, I guess making an app with image recognition takes too much effort, and having all the logic in an app makes it easier for your fellow thief to go independent and not give you your cut. I guess an app that requires login would be possible.
Re:Russians Engineer a Slot Machine Cheat that Casinos Can't... by uremog on Monday February 06, 2017 @12:13PM (#13581555)
Yeah, it'd be too much of a risk to let the "secret sauce" go anywhere out of their control.
Re:Russians Engineer a Slot Machine Cheat that Casinos Can't... by macintux on Monday February 06, 2017 @12:00PM (#13581419)
IIRC the iPhone processing power is inadequate.
Re:Russians Engineer a Slot Machine Cheat that Casinos Can't... by bourbonfiber on Monday February 06, 2017 @02:30PM (#13583030)
What are you remembering, exactly?
Re:Russians Engineer a Slot Machine Cheat that Casinos Can't... by macintux on Monday February 06, 2017 @03:22PM (#13583467)
I made that assumption based on this text:

> So even if they understand how a machine’s PRNG functions, hackers would also have to analyze the machine’s gameplay to discern its pattern. That requires both time and substantial computing power

I would have guessed that the CPU requirements to process the video and map it against the PRNG characteristics would be a bit much for a smartphone, but given how powerful they are these days, that may well be flawed assumption.

Re:Russians Engineer a Slot Machine Cheat that Casinos Can't... by matheweis on Monday February 06, 2017 @10:33PM (#13586772)
I can't speak to the video processing (although with modern neural networks it seems it would be more than doable), but speaking from experience, brute forcing a 32-bit PRNG takes substantially less compute power than you might think...