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Re:Mozilla closes Connected Devices division, lays off 50 by bobajeff on Thursday February 02, 2017 @09:59PM (#13557302)
This is true. It may not be a truth people in professional circles like to here. But PCs used to be mass market consumer products in the 90s (during the internet boom) but now Smartphones, tablets and in some cases set top boxes have taken their place.
Re:Mozilla closes Connected Devices division, lays off 50 by carussell on Thursday February 02, 2017 @10:18PM (#13557387)
This is exactly the kind of argument I'm trying to burn to the ground in the second part of my comment above (see "nerd niche itch"). You write this, thinking that you're revealing some uncomfortable truth that the bubbleheads don't understand. But the real truth is that Chromebooks are killing.

The penetration Chromebooks have made in education is huge. And even if it were an entirely no-profit/break-even situation, the idea of millions of students and public library patrons doing work on a "Firebook", and that it would be a serious contender to Windows-based PCs in a number of IT departments, is so perfectly aligned with Mozilla's ideals that it makes me sick to think about, especially juxtaposed with the hundreds of millions that Mozilla Corp has thrown away in the go-nowhere endeavors that it did pursue.

Re:Mozilla closes Connected Devices division, lays off 50 by pjmlp on Friday February 03, 2017 @01:08AM (#13558077)
That is an US phenomenon, there are hardly any queues of people buying Chromebooks outside US, let alone having them on display.
Re:Mozilla closes Connected Devices division, lays off 50 by chris_wot on Friday February 03, 2017 @01:51AM (#13558241)
He wasn't talking about consumer purchases - he was talking about education.
Re:Mozilla closes Connected Devices division, lays off 50 by pjmlp on Friday February 03, 2017 @02:16AM (#13558310)
Still an US only phenomenon, I haven't seen anyone in education related domains with a Chromebook, specially since in Europe it is up to the students to care for their own hardware, as consumer purchase.
Re:Mozilla closes Connected Devices division, lays off 50 by Baeocystin on Friday February 03, 2017 @03:58AM (#13558649)
If I am reading this article correctly, it looks like the %/market that Chromebooks have managed to capture in the field of education is large worldwide.

http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/3058517

Re:Mozilla closes Connected Devices division, lays off 50 by pjmlp on Friday February 03, 2017 @04:18AM (#13558720)
Ah, one of those Gartner studies that companies buy from 2015, yet we don't see them on the stores.

When we do happen to see one, if it is a store we visit regularly, what we see is the same device on display being discounted to death until the store finally manages to get rid of it.

I must have seen around 5 like that, so I don't get where Gartner is getting their values from.

Re:Mozilla closes Connected Devices division, lays off 50 by Sacho on Friday February 03, 2017 @06:19AM (#13559056)
I'm all for skepticism of statistics, but you're offering an anecdote to refute it...
Re:Mozilla closes Connected Devices division, lays off 50 by pjmlp on Friday February 03, 2017 @06:56AM (#13559170)
It might be an anecdote, but apparently it is one shared by the majority of European HNers.

So where are those units that Gartner states were sold over here?

Re:Mozilla closes Connected Devices division, lays off 50 by Baeocystin on Saturday February 04, 2017 @06:40AM (#13566640)
The plural of anecdote is not data.