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Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by dragonbonheur on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @02:21AM (#13539003)
When this year is over, US citizens will hold the world record for protests against their own government.
Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by shostack on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @07:11AM (#13540084)
That's if we're allowed to continue protesting. The GOP just introduced bills across many states to make it more difficult, including such things as a felony and 5 years jail plus $7500 fine for blocking roads during protests (impossible to have a large one without doing this). Land of the free.

Some restrictions apply.

Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by cpburns2009 on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @10:18AM (#13541318)
It's one thing to protest peacefully. But it's completely different to protest by infringing on the rights of other people to travel.
Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by throwaway2048 on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @10:39AM (#13541491)
Because 5 years in jail + felony conviction + $7500 fine is totally about other people's right to travel, and not about hammering down public dissent.
Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by cpburns2009 on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @10:55AM (#13541645)
Is that the minimum or maximum penalty? If that's the minimum, it is excessive. If that's merely the maximum, then for reference if you steal mail (also a federal offense), the maximum penalty is 5 years in prison and $250,000 which seems much worse to me. There has to be some deterrent to prevent unruly protesters from forcibly preventing people from getting to work and potentially being fired as a result.
Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by eeeeeeeeeeeee on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @11:45AM (#13542271)
You don't have a right to drive your car, that is a privilege. We have a right to protest.
Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by nate_meurer on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @12:29PM (#13542762)
Are emergency services also a "privilege"? Do you think our right to free assembly means we get to block ambulances and fire fighters from passing?
Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by dragonbonheur on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @08:57AM (#13540698)
That's why you like your guns, right? To protect your "liberties" ? The 2nd amendment protects the 1st and all that jazz?
Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by eli_gottlieb on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @10:29AM (#13541409)
We're definitely starting to get into that sort of area, yes. Given how utterly unresponsive the government now is to the majority of Americans (rather than to the small minority who constitute the voting "majority" in their own, gerrymandered districts), yes.
Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by Arizhel on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @10:44AM (#13541531)
The people with all the guns are the ones who are big fans of this new administration.
Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by rhcom2 on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @12:27PM (#13542739)
There are liberals with guns. I'm one of them and mostly pro 2A but not a single issue voter like many 2A people.

Also there is an irony in the switch between all the talk on the right about armed resistance to the BLM and Hillary and now the left talking about armed resistance to Trump.

Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by Arizhel on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @03:39PM (#13544869)
Yes, there are liberals with guns out there, just like there's people out there with their internal organs reversed (heart on the right, etc.). But by and large, there aren't very many; the vast majority of the gun owners are Republican voters. And they aren't going to offer any armed resistance to Trump or anyone else because they're generally pro-authoritarian.

I haven't heard of anyone on the left seriously discussing armed resistance to Trump. If they are, they sound rather delusional, just because of numbers. There simply aren't many politically active people on the left in this country who are also armed, or even believe in being armed. This sounds like a tiny number of radicals at best. This isn't like Central American nations in the past, or other parts of the world, where the leftists were actually violent and believed in using violent means to achieve social change. Gun control has been one of the big tenets of the "left" here for a very long time.

Note that I'm not supporting the right-wingers here (personally I was a fan of Bernie for the most part), I'm just pointing out the reality in this country. It's the right-wingers who make up the vast bulk of the gun-lovers and owners.

Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by mikestew on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @12:37PM (#13542863)
Put down your stereotypes and you'll realize that with more guns than people in the U. S. simple math would likely dictate much more diversity in gun ownership than you apparently think. Hard to do a join on gun owners and voting records, but given the numbers on the popular vote and the number of guns in the U. S., it's entirely possible that your statement is flat-out wrong.

Additionally, going with the idea that you're right for the moment, you think gun owners are happy about hunting land being taken away?

Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by Arizhel on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @02:18PM (#13543975)
>Additionally, going with the idea that you're right for the moment, you think gun owners are happy about hunting land being taken away?

Yes. They vote this way, and they've always voted this way. They continually vote for people who push the whole "privatization!!!" religion. So they're getting what they voted for.

Re:Republicans move to sell off 3.3m acres of national land,... by eli_gottlieb on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @10:47AM (#13541563)
I don't think that's actually true. As a native to the Northeast, I was quite surprised by just how many guns I saw everywhere when staying in Mountain View and working in Redwood City for a short while.

Also, many Republicans aren't big fans of this new administration.