Re:Were Early Modern People Perpetually Drunk? (2016)
by spqr0a1 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @08:19PM
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Humans absolutely can use ethanol for energy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_metabolism
We net 7 kcal/g from ethanol, (compare to 9 kcal/g fat, or 4 kcal/g carbohydrate/protein.) There's several intermediate steps, but it's pretty efficient and a dense source of energy.
Much of lipid and protein catabolism also does not rely on glucose as an intermediate. Everything that doesn't get converted to glucose first will get converted to acetyl-CoA (glucose catabolites turn into this too) for use in the Krebs cycle.
Re:Were Early Modern People Perpetually Drunk? (2016)
by BjoernKW on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @04:09AM
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Absolutely. Bavarian monks famously invented Bock beer (very rich, high wort density, 7% ABV and above) as nourishment during Lent when they were not allowed to take in solid food.
Re:Were Early Modern People Perpetually Drunk? (2016)
by narag on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @07:40PM
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I've read somewhere that beer was used instead of water in areas where water wasn't safe. IIRC, beer has non-alcoholic calories also. I don't believe one can live on spirits, but it could make you forget you are hungry :)
Edit: I should have read TFA before commenting.
Re:Were Early Modern People Perpetually Drunk? (2016)
by r00fus on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @03:02AM
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Old saying that my wife's French grandpa liked to say - "I don't drink water, it makes me rust".
Re:Were Early Modern People Perpetually Drunk? (2016)
by pouetpouet on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @05:20AM
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Heard it as "Water make iron stomachs rust".
Usually everyday beer as a replacement of water was smallbeer/bière de table with 2-3% alcohol.
Re:Were Early Modern People Perpetually Drunk? (2016)
by maxerickson on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @07:59PM
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Yes, humans can derive energy from alcohol.
The system that eventually extracts energy from glucose (the citric acid cycle, also called the Krebs cycle) is involved, after the liver converts the ethanol.
Re:Were Early Modern People Perpetually Drunk? (2016)
by crooked-v on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @07:43PM
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All the calories from the grains or fruits used to make alcoholic drinks don't just evaporate into the ether! "Lite" beers with low calorie contents are a fairly new invention.
If you look back far enough, some early brewing, like that of ancient Egypt, made beer so thick that mugs would often come with straws built into them so people could get past the thick layer of almost-solid grains that would float to the top.
Re:Were Early Modern People Perpetually Drunk? (2016)
by sndean on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @07:50PM
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Ethanol is broken down and eventually fed into the TCA cycle. Some useful byproducts are also made. So, yeah, you get some energy out of ethanol. It's a pretty inefficient way to get energy though.
Re:Were Early Modern People Perpetually Drunk? (2016)
by hinkley on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:04PM
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It's an efficient way to get calories up until the year's first harvest though.
Re:Were Early Modern People Perpetually Drunk? (2016)
by intrasight on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @08:50PM
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Not so sure already.