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Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by cdmckay on Monday January 30, 2017 @11:28PM (#13527616)
I think the issue people have isn't the surge pricing so much as the fact that Uber didn't participate in the strike, and thus profited from it.
Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by true_religion on Monday January 30, 2017 @11:32PM (#13527640)
So? I have a hard time understanding why a multinational company needs to participate so deeply in the politics and labor strikes of a single city.

New York is big, but I'd imagine the CEO had a focus that included LA, Chicago, London, etc. and that would take away from coordinating with any taxi-strikers in NYC.

Addendum: Did the taxi union contact Uber before the strike to coordinate this action?

I mean it's a 1 hour strike. Is there any real meaning to this? The trains have stopped working for far longer than that.

Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by prostoalex on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @12:03AM (#13527829)
Worth noting that 3 collective entities "broke" the strike.

1) Uber drivers by responding to pickups.

2) Uber customers by requesting those pickups.

3) Uber the company by facilitating those pickups.

I am not sure we can claim high moral ground and label (3) immoral while staying oblivious to (1) and (2).

Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by arglebarnacle on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @12:55AM (#13528079)
Failing to boycott is not the same thing as breaking a strike. If this whole incident has revealed one thing, it's the extent to which the labor movement has lost cultural and moral mindshare. Forty years ago, everyone knew what scabbing was, what it wasn't, and had social/political/moral ideas about it.

Now that the labor occupies a much less central place in our society, these common norms and knowledge have been lost. I happen to be appalled by this because of my own political views, but good or bad it's certainly a sign of the times.

Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by hueving on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @01:35AM (#13528294)
But the people claiming Uber was stabbing don't even understand it. Scabbing is something done by individuals, in this case the Uber drivers.

>these common norms

Common to union supporters.

Also, abusing a unions' power to make a political statement rather than fight for the workers' rights is only weakening the union further. It's now less of a self defense mechanism and more of a mafia-esque bullying mechanism.

Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by baddox on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @01:14AM (#13528178)
Don't you have to agree to a strike (or agree to be part of an organization that strikes) to be considered to be "breaking the strike"? Wasn't it taxi unions or collectives that decided to strike? Aren't Uber drivers (and Uber the corporation) not beholden in any way to the organizations which chose to strike? When the writer's guild decided to strike in 2007, that only applied to members of the WGA, not everyone who happened to do any work in that industry or a similar industry. Were bus drivers "breaking the strike"? How about pilots? Train engineers? Surely the fact that taxi organizations decided to strike doesn't mean that anyone involved in human transportation at the time was "breaking the strike."
Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by kelnos on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @03:04AM (#13528656)
Well, six entities: the three you mention plus each one with s/Uber/Lyft/, since Lyft was also picking up people from the airport during that time.

Your point still stands, of course. (Though I choose to avoid taking the moral high ground not by condemning all of those entities, but by refusing to condemn any of them, since I don't see any fault here.)

Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by incongruity on Monday January 30, 2017 @11:52PM (#13527752)
They don't have to but their customers are similarly free to opt to not use Uber and, even, to call for other customers to do the same.
Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by zouhair on Monday January 30, 2017 @11:55PM (#13527780)
Because we all live in one society?
Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by thescribe on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @12:29AM (#13527968)
Clearly we don't, at least for values of society that include this strike?
Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by Meekro on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @12:16AM (#13527892)
Lyft didn't participate either. Switching to them because of this strike is irrational.
Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by bradjohnson on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @05:50PM (#13536140)
It's not irrational. It might be unfair, but it sends the intended message.

If businesses associate pro-trump practices with a loss of revenue, this protest has been effective.

Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by taneq on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @03:14AM (#13528705)
So Uber's choices are (a) Do nothing and be accused of profiteering from the strike, (b) Forgo profit and be accused of breaking the strike, or (c) Recognize that they're in a hostage situation and be forced into joining the strike.

I'm no Uber fan but those are pretty lousy choices to force on anyone.

Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by tedunangst on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @12:04AM (#13527834)
But Uber drivers in New York were free to strike if they wanted, no? Did uber threaten to fire anyone who didn't drive during the strike?
Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by BurningFrog on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @12:23AM (#13527938)
That's not how Uber or Lyft works. Drivers drive whenever they feel like it.
Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by kalleboo on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @03:43AM (#13528815)
Isn't it the same for taxi drivers? Couldn't any NYC taxi driver break the strike just as easily as an Uber driver? Or do they have to deposit their cars in some common depot? /activate the taximeter?
Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by brbrodude on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @01:20PM (#13533472)
To me its clear its about the surge pricing. Because it means they weren't neutral, they picked their side against the taxi-drivers solidarity when they opted to undercut the strike by making a promotion for the passengers. How is this hard to understand? Lyft may have not joined they strike and nobody expects a business to not behave like a business(in the sense: make some press release stating a position or something but operate normally or just don't get involved or do it indirectly like Lyft did of making a donation etc) but they did remained neutral instead of going the disgusting-profitteer-pig-Ill-try-to-win-some-regardless-of-anything way of uber. It's so damn simple.
Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by foota on Monday January 30, 2017 @11:30PM (#13527629)
Do we know there was an attempt to collaborate with Uber on the strike?
Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by wavefunction on Monday January 30, 2017 @11:36PM (#13527657)
So far we have no evidence that Uber attempted to take part in the strike but we do have evidence that Uber knew about the strike (temporary cessation of surge pricing) and didn't take part in it.
Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by foota on Monday January 30, 2017 @11:55PM (#13527781)
The end of the surge pricing wasn't until after the strike.
Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by timmyc on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @12:00AM (#13527805)
the timeline provided does not confirm this tho
Re:Lyft surges to the top 10 on App Store following the “Del... by pfarnsworth on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @02:03AM (#13528418)
lol it completely confirms it. The strike ended at 7pm, surge was lowered at 7:36pm.