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Re:Ask HN: What was your relocation package like? by relothrowaway on Saturday January 28, 2017 @03:07PM (#13508785)
It's not that simple. Rent is included because we would be looking to buy a home in the US. We currently own a home here. Rent is so we have time to find the right place. We could also use that money to do house hunting visits but those are a lot more expensive.

Here's a few other costs we've found and we find more every day:

- Legal and processing fees for filing immigration paper work, doctor's visits, travel to interviews

- One way airfare or multiple airfares if I move first and family comes later so I can see them

- Getting all our belongings packed up and moved by a reputable mover

- Assistance with job placement for my wife since she also works

- Realtor fees for buying/selling ourt homes

- Some assistance with furnishing the new home

It can go on and on.

Re:Ask HN: What was your relocation package like? by natch on Saturday January 28, 2017 @04:00PM (#13509262)
Some of the things you mention seem somewhat exaggerated. Your expectations and apparent level of entitlement are a bit surprising.

I wouldn't have said this if the offer level was, say $10k or $20k. But $30k seems pretty good even if you have decided that you require the ability to buy a house (not everybody has that privilege; you should feel lucky, and not take it for granted).

It is an offer. It gives you and your family certain benefits. You may also have certain costs. Those are your business. Just deal with them, or not.

You can take it or leave it. If coming to California is worth it for you and your family, take the offer. If not, don't. Not every opportunity in life is cost-free for you. For some of them, you have to step up and pay some of your own contribution.

That being said, your concerns are all valid. These are all things you need to consider, and it's good you're thinking it through. Maybe you can present them to your prospective employer as inputs to your decision. Just don't give them the feeling that you have a very entitled attitude, although you seem to, because that could backfire either with a withdrawn offer, or feelings of rancor later.

Re:Ask HN: What was your relocation package like? by sheepmullet on Saturday January 28, 2017 @05:23PM (#13509831)
> Your expectations and apparent level of entitlement are a bit surprising.

Why do you say that?

It sounds like he doesn't want to be out of pocket for a relocation.

He has an upper middle class job and lifestyle and is moving for an upper middle class role. So he wants an upper middle class relocation package.

Re:Ask HN: What was your relocation package like? by ghaff on Saturday January 28, 2017 @04:42PM (#13509565)
What's entitled about saying that these are real costs? I don't see him saying that they all need to be reimbursed but they are costs.
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Re:Ask HN: What was your relocation package like? by awfgylbcxhrey on Saturday January 28, 2017 @03:45PM (#13509136)
Wow, calm down.

The cost of relocation is the cost of relocation. That's any cost incurred by the process of relocating. In that person's case, it includes rent. Your case is different. End of story.

Re:Ask HN: What was your relocation package like? by vostok on Saturday January 28, 2017 @03:45PM (#13509140)
Forgive me if I am skeptical about whether or not you have moved from one country to another with a family while maintaining a certain level of comfort.

Yes, it's possible to move with an economy class ticket and a backpack. Indeed that's how I moved to the US, but expecting your employees to do this is typically not considered a good way to attract talent.

Re:Ask HN: What was your relocation package like? by throwawasiudy on Saturday January 28, 2017 @04:01PM (#13509279)
it's possible and not even bad. Just live in a long stay hotel for a month or two until you find a house. Pay 3-5 k to have all your stuff packed up from old house and dropped at new house. Pay realtor to sell old house.

Simple, it could all be arranged within days.

Re:Ask HN: What was your relocation package like? by matthewaveryusa on Saturday January 28, 2017 @03:57PM (#13509237)
Because you don't have a family and you don't own property? A 1-for-1 relocation where you own a 500k house and buy a 500k house easily costs 30k.
Re:Ask HN: What was your relocation package like? by johndubchak on Saturday January 28, 2017 @03:51PM (#13509195)
It also sounds like they are moving from an international destination which will be considerably more expensive than just relocating domestically.
Re:Ask HN: What was your relocation package like? by njloof on Saturday January 28, 2017 @05:04PM (#13509716)
Yah, an international relo is no joke. Negotiating the paperwork without proper counsel is a recipe to screw up your visa or green card. Expecting the employee to do this alone is irresponsible.
Re:Ask HN: What was your relocation package like? by Symbiote on Sunday January 29, 2017 @01:11AM (#13512531)
I didn't realise how easy moving within the EU was, in comparison. I'm surprised Canada to the USA is so much more hassle.

My employer paid for my flight (at £80 or so, including my bike, on the nice airline), plus the cost to move my furniture.

The paperwork was putting my new address on a form, and ticking the box labelled "EU citizen".