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Re:'Shimmers' are the newest tool for stealing credit card info by PeterisP on Saturday January 28, 2017 @01:58PM (#13508062)
From the issuer side, the solution to remove this risk is simple (and I believe I was told it in an EMV implementation seminar 10 years ago):

If the incoming transaction lists that the terminal is chip&pin capable, so you'd simply automatically reject a magstripe transaction with a code that should result in POS showing "please insert card in the chip reader";

If the incoming transaction lists that the terminal is not chip&pin capable, the merchant has chosen to be liable for all fraud cases themselves, so it can't cause a loss for you and your customers. It is an inconvenience, but as all the fraud in the country concentrates on the (fewer and fewer) merchants accepting these transactions, it causes an increasing financial pressure on them to switch.

Re:'Shimmers' are the newest tool for stealing credit card info by chrsstrm on Saturday January 28, 2017 @05:48PM (#13510001)
If you try to swipe a chip card then yes, the terminal will reject the swipe and tell you to insert the chip. If your chip fails three successive tries, the terminal will accept a mag swipe instead. I don't know if this is true everywhere but I have seen it in multiple retailers across the US. Point is, if attackers are cloning mag cards from chip data, those cards can still be used in chip terminals.
Re:'Shimmers' are the newest tool for stealing credit card info by redbluff on Saturday January 28, 2017 @05:56PM (#13510040)
That can be true, but then the transaction is considered "fallback" and most issuer Banks that have any brains will be examining these very closely with their real time fraud systems. Some deny fallback outright, but I am not sure if this is within scheme rules, it may depend on the region.
Re:'Shimmers' are the newest tool for stealing credit card info by cpncrunch on Saturday January 28, 2017 @06:06PM (#13510115)
From what I can determine, the retailer is liable for fraud when using magnetic strip, whether or not the chip has failed:

http://www.emvcanada.com/forum/what-happens-when.html

Re:'Shimmers' are the newest tool for stealing credit card info by kiwijamo on Saturday January 28, 2017 @10:15PM (#13511735)
New Zealand chip card machines does the same but I think it only need two chip read failures before it falls back to swiping using the magnetic strip.