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Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by jacquesm on Saturday January 28, 2017 @07:42AM (#13505991)
Well, you'll reap what you sow. The whole reason Trump is doing all these things by EO is because he urgently needs a crisis during which he can be the strongman. Given that the USA is in fine shape (despite fearmongering to the contrary) his first order of battle is to provide said crisis.

Putin could not have picked a better guy to lead his 'divide and conquer' strategy, give it a few weeks, months or years and then come back to read your comment here and try not to feel very foolish.

I wish you best of luck with the aftermath of all this, one thing is for sure: America will not be any 'greater' than it was before Trump became president and mostly likely will be a lot less great. America's enemies will be that much stronger by having diminished their main foe.

If I'd be living in Ukraine, Lithuania or Latvia I'd be quite worried about what happens next.

Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by dukeluke on Saturday January 28, 2017 @07:47AM (#13506008)
I would argue that our economy is not in fine shape. Millennials make 20 percent less than boomers did at the same part of life. Wages are stagnant, especially among laborers, lower class, and those in rural areas. Growing inequality combined with a higher cost of living means that the rich and highly populated areas are doing fabulously while the quality of life for the rest is declining.

Edit: spelling

Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by jacquesm on Saturday January 28, 2017 @07:55AM (#13506031)
The quality of life for the 'rest' is declining but none of these executive orders have even begun to address that problem.

The world is changing and no amount of wishing is going to change it back, the only way to survive change at that level is to adapt rather than to complain and wish for yesterday to return. It may sound harsh but it won't and any attempt to force yesterday to return is simply going to set back the country as a whole relative to the rest of the world.

Given that America more than most plucked the fruits of this whole globalization thing it is really strange to see it wanting to turn back the clock now, and I fear that the resulting set-back will be paid disproportionally by those laborers, 'lower classes' (let's say the poor) and people in rural areas.

Not that Trump will eat one oyster less.

Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by shard972 on Saturday January 28, 2017 @09:25AM (#13506401)
> The quality of life for the 'rest' is declining but none of these executive orders have even begun to address that problem.

What about the restarting of the keystone XL pipeline? With the added bonus of having the project built with US steel?

Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by magicalist on Saturday January 28, 2017 @02:22PM (#13508293)
> What about the restarting of the keystone XL pipeline? With the added bonus of having the project built with US steel?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-pipeline-transca...

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Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by jacquesm on Saturday January 28, 2017 @07:49AM (#13506014)
Yes, god forbid we'd have some humanity.

And I didn't notice America picking up its share of the refugees from countries where America wages war before this EO so I'm not really sure what you're getting at.

The previous world war caused millions of people to be uprooted from their homes and to depend on the charity and hospitality of places that did not 'share their values' and yet it worked out fine in the long run.

Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by notpc on Saturday January 28, 2017 @07:55AM (#13506028)
You need only look at the banlieues of Paris, full of second and third generation Middle Easterners who hate France and hate French values to prove my point.
Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by jacquesm on Saturday January 28, 2017 @07:57AM (#13506039)
Those are not representative of Europe or even of France.

And you could even doubt to what extent the situation there is accurately described by the word 'full', plenty of people there do not hate France and do not hate the French (if only because they are French themselves...).

Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by shard972 on Saturday January 28, 2017 @09:10AM (#13506330)
> Those are not representative of Europe or even of France.

He wasn't claiming they were, he was saying they are representative of themselves. Do you disagree?

Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by drinkjuice on Saturday January 28, 2017 @11:03AM (#13506918)
Nah, he was claiming that proves his "point", which includes "Europeans feeling foolish", as if that monolith exists anywhere but around synapses that use crayons; do you disagree?
Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by Oletros on Saturday January 28, 2017 @08:09AM (#13506087)
Is Algeria in the Middle East?
Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by phicoh on Saturday January 28, 2017 @08:04AM (#13506065)
And what a great country it is. Causing in war in Iraq, Afghanistan, supporting the civil war in Syria and then leaving it to Europe to deal with the refugees.

I guess you must be really proud of your country now.

Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by cookiecaper on Saturday January 28, 2017 @11:03AM (#13506925)
One of the reasons Trump is popular is that there's a belief he'll prioritize American interests and refrain from waging extraneous wars on behalf of global interests.

The proxy war in Syria is ridiculous. Having a president who isn't interested in antagonizing Russia is good.

Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by davedx on Saturday January 28, 2017 @08:55AM (#13506265)
European here. I am extremely proud of every single refugee we have taken into our countries.

I don't feel foolish, I feel like a decent human being. How about you? You feel smart with Trump and his 'alternative facts' being in charge? :)

Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by denzil_correa on Saturday January 28, 2017 @08:00AM (#13506050)
> having taken in millions of refugees

The IOM and UNHCR estimates say that Europe took 1M refugees and migrants until December 2015. That's the highest it has received in a year. So, the claim of "MillionS" of refugees is a pure exaggeration.

Re:Google Recalls Staff to U.S. After Trump Immigration Order by dingaling on Saturday January 28, 2017 @10:28AM (#13506681)
What baffles me is why there is so much fear of a country with a GDP less than that of California alone.

Any time you hear Russia being invoked as a reason to do or not do something, you are being manipulated by fearmongering.