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Re:Making the move from Scala to Go by pjmlp on Wednesday January 25, 2017 @09:36AM (#13481618)
"I don't know how many of you have ever met Dijkstra, but you probably know that arrogance in computer science is measured in nano-Dijkstras."

-- Alan Kay, The Computer Revolution hasn't happend yet — 1997 OOPSLA Keynote

Re:Making the move from Scala to Go by edejong on Wednesday January 25, 2017 @10:25AM (#13482104)
Could you explain how exactly this quote is applicable to Dijkstra's quote? Which part do you think is arrogant?

Alan seems to make an overly broad statement, which is funny, but also weak.

Re:Making the move from Scala to Go by sten on Wednesday January 25, 2017 @11:10AM (#13482557)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but was Dijkstra not known for never actually using a computer. He wrote code with pencil and paper. There's a gulf between academic code and the needs of the day to day programmer. That said, I agree with his statement about one liners. Code should be parsimonious. It should never be a puzzle to understand what the code is doing.
Re:Making the move from Scala to Go by edejong on Wednesday January 25, 2017 @02:21PM (#13484967)
I hereby correct you. You are wrong.

Dijkstra decided to program using pencil and paper much later, and mostly because he (like most good programmers) already knew the solution before writing it down.

I correct you again for implying he wrote purely academic code. This is plainly false: for example, he specified part of and implemented the compiler of the Algol-77 language. He implemented one of the first multi-layer (ring-based) OSes.

And then you mention the day-to-day programmer is not in need of academic code. To the contrary! Dijkstra argued that the software crisis (the gap between what computers can do, and what they are actually doing) is caused because day-to-day programmers do not have the right tools and knowledge at hand. In EWD 340, Dijkstra argues this is caused by the mental overhead caused by clever tricks and languages allowing these tricks.

As a professional, I am constantly relating to concepts and code which have an academic basis. Examples are from type theory, lambda calculus, paxos, map-reduce, queueing theory, compression algorithms and many more. I have seen many programming languages, wrote assemblers, interpreters and compilers, worked professionally with imperative, OOP, functional and (higher-order) logical languages, so I dare to say that programming is not about what you can do with the language, but what the language does with you.

Re:Making the move from Scala to Go by voidlogic on Wednesday January 25, 2017 @09:50AM (#13481779)
While this may have a lot of truth to it, the ironic thing here is you are posting this in response to a Dijkstra quote urging us down the path of humility.
Re:Making the move from Scala to Go by TeMPOraL on Wednesday January 25, 2017 @10:00AM (#13481873)
Humility sometimes isn't, as currently discussed in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13480255.