Oh no it's terrible here, rains all the time, you'd hate it. Should probably stay in the Bay Area.

You're joking, but the weather can really be an issue for some people. For me and my family, it's not so much the rain as the appalling lack of sunshine year round and the early nightfall in winter. And the "Seattle Freeze" is not a myth, either.

As a native minnesotan now living in Seattle, I have to say that rumors of bad weather are greatly exaggerated.

I've heard the only place worse than Seattle is Portland. Filled with cannibals.

I think you misspelled "cannabis" ;)

And traffic is the worst - geographically, it's a natural bottleneck. You're fine if you live centrally, but otherwise it's a crapshoot how long it will take to drive anywhere.

I lolled - the Seattle NIMBY defending against hordes of bay area refugees. :)

Having visited both places, I can hardly blame them! And Eugene is even worse - I left half a leg there, and last I saw there was a running gunfight over who'd get the calf meat.

Maybe if you live downtown, but i visited and couldnt go anywhere without a car. Theres basically no public transport.

Yes, exactly, don't come here! No public transit. No massive collection of rapid rides[0], no growing light rail system[1], and no bus usage just below San Fran and growing [2]. And certainly no huge and growing collection of bike trails [3]. Really there's just rain and coffee here. At least it's some good coffee.

[0] http://metro.kingcounty.gov/travel-options/bus/rapidride/ [1] http://soundtransit3.org/map#map [2] http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/data/seattle-sees-b... [3] http://stb-wp.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/09...

Can you please cite your source for the good coffee? I hate when people don't give evidence in their posts here. Seriously, this community is going to hell.

Well I didn't cite because we don't have any. I mean really we have basically no Coffee [1]. I mean, TBH, we are a boring bland place with only big box shops - no record stores or anything unique [2]. You should really just drive through and pay no attention.

[1] - https://www.bustle.com/articles/155686-which-us-city-has-the... [2] - http://www.infogroup.com/defining-the-hippest-us-cities

Seattle has also aggressively ramped up apartment construction with demand. Rents are projected to level next year, which is nice.