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Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by CaptSpify on Sunday January 22, 2017 @03:42PM (#13457324)
The US is statistically racist: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/02/civil-rights-act-an...

That's just the first link I found of ddg. It's plenty easy to find more. Things are getting better, but we are far from done with this fight.

Anecdotally: I've lived on the west-coast, and the midwest/south. In both areas I have seen blatant racism take place both culturally by individuals, and systematically by police.

As an American, I ashamedly disagree that this is at all libel.

Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by mjolk on Sunday January 22, 2017 @04:44PM (#13457715)
Huffington Post is garbage. That link is full of correlation or data points and then ascribing racism.
Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by refurb on Sunday January 22, 2017 @06:45PM (#13458447)
Nice try. None of those "stats" prove that the US is racist. It shows disparities based on race, but racism is one of many possible reasons. I could throw up a number of "stats" proving the US isn't racist (anymore than any other country).
Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by CaptSpify on Sunday January 22, 2017 @06:49PM (#13458477)
So, the effects of our decisions end up with racist results, yet we aren't racists? If it acts like a duck...
Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by mjolk on Sunday January 22, 2017 @06:56PM (#13458517)
Your default is to attribute something you do not fully understand to racism? To trade folksy expressions, the boy who cried wolf...
Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by CaptSpify on Sunday January 22, 2017 @07:34PM (#13458697)
No, my default is to look at the statistical evidence around me. The statistics are showing that we treat other races worse than we treat white people. Nothing I'm saying is a lie, so I'm not even sure how your expression applies.
Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by mjolk on Sunday January 22, 2017 @07:53PM (#13458782)
> No, my default is to look at the statistical evidence around me.

No, you're going by anecdote and perception, which is why you fell back to "well I think it looks racist".

> The statistics are showing that we treat other races worse than we treat white people.

Who is we in this scenario? Keep in mind that you're trying to prove that the US is majority racist.

> Nothing I'm saying is a lie, so I'm not even sure how your expression applies.

You stated "if it acts like a duck... (it's probably a duck)" to sidestep having to prove that the US is systematically racist. To you, it's not a lie and you've constructed a fallacy in which the onus would be to convince you, personally to change your perception.

The expression applies because if everything and everyone is slated as racist, when actual racism happens, reports of it will just be lost in the noise.

Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by CaptSpify on Sunday January 22, 2017 @11:17PM (#13459717)
Really? all those numbers I've pulled up is anecdote and perception? Interesting. Mind telling me how statistics works again?

I will admit that I don't know if I would argue that the US is majority racist (the op comment does indeed say that). I don't have the stats on that, and I don't legitimately think we could get those. So if that is what you are arguing for, I won't argue against. I'm only arguing that the US has a big problem with racism that we still need to deal with, which is far from solved. Enough that I would consider us a "racist" nation.

Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by refurb on Sunday January 22, 2017 @06:53PM (#13458505)
Your brother got sick, that's proof you poisoned him. If it acts like a duck...
Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by CaptSpify on Sunday January 22, 2017 @06:57PM (#13458522)
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Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by MertsA on Monday January 23, 2017 @05:04AM (#13461091)
To be fair, that doesn't necessarily mean that the US is statistically racist, whatever that means. Societal racism in the past, immigration, etc can lead to a situation where a particular race will still be behind generations later in terms of wealth. It takes money to make money.

I think you're right that there's still societal racism in America but just looking at wealth doesn't account for immigration or past racism.

Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by CaptSpify on Monday January 23, 2017 @03:00PM (#13465406)
This is a good point. I guess you could call it "momentum" of a sort, but I'm not sure if it would be possible to get any real numbers on that. I'd love to hear ideas about how to do that though.
Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by prodigal_erik on Sunday January 22, 2017 @09:22PM (#13459207)
Racism is the name of certain kinds of prejudice, not results. When different races start out in different concrete circumstances and different norms taught by families, different results for them may or may not be caused by people acting on racist opinions.
Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by ftrflyr on Sunday January 22, 2017 @06:25PM (#13458322)
+1 For Huffington Post nonsense. That is your first problem. Stop reading that garbage.
Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by CaptSpify on Sunday January 22, 2017 @06:40PM (#13458420)
> That's just the first link I found of ddg. It's plenty easy to find more.
Re:I Had My Electronics Seized by U.S. Customs and Border Pr... by vaadu on Sunday January 22, 2017 @05:27PM (#13457995)
The Huffington Post, really? They are nothing more that DNC staffers with bylines.