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Re:Do you prefer Angelist over LinkedIn for hiring? by dbg31415 on Friday January 20, 2017 @03:24AM (#13442395)
I really don't like either.

I don't like LinkedIn because I got a bunch of spam candidates. I also dislike that it doesn't force job posters to disclose salary expectations before hand -- this is inefficient. (From an applicant perspective, I do like how easy LinkedIn makes snapping in a resume and submitting an application... but I have to wonder if making it fast to apply is really the best metric.)

I dislike Angel List because I have to accept just applicants profiles from Angel List as their application and I like to hit them up with a few basic questions first to save time. (As far as I'm concerned, we don't need another Facebook-for-work type site on top of LinkedIn -- and LinkedIn has already won this battle.)

I like JazzHR quite a bit.

Re:Do you prefer Angelist over LinkedIn for hiring? by fsloth on Friday January 20, 2017 @08:39AM (#13443664)
" I also dislike that it doesn't force job posters to disclose salary expectations before hand -- this is inefficient."

No, it's fair. I'm a fairly talented programmer and if I sense any bullshit tactics based on information assymetry I'm not interested on your offer.

This is the first advice professionals who have no experience of salary negotiations get: don't say the first price, unless you know what you are doing.

That you explicitly expect them to brake this rule does not speak well of your approach to the process.

Of course, there can be some local customs and practices I'm not familiar with.

Re:Do you prefer Angelist over LinkedIn for hiring? by pyb on Friday January 20, 2017 @09:11AM (#13443830)
Job posters, not job seekers
Re:Do you prefer Angelist over LinkedIn for hiring? by fsloth on Friday January 20, 2017 @09:43AM (#13444080)
Ah, my bad, my apologies. Sadly I can't delete my earlier comment so I'll leave it there for posterity to document my inability in reading comprehension.
Re:Do you prefer Angelist over LinkedIn for hiring? by pyb on Friday January 20, 2017 @10:42AM (#13444573)
You made a good point re. job seekers though :)
Re:Do you prefer Angelist over LinkedIn for hiring? by gotofritz on Friday January 20, 2017 @08:09AM (#13443503)
As an applicant I don't give my salary expectations until the last moment. It would be foolish to.
Re:Do you prefer Angelist over LinkedIn for hiring? by wayn3 on Friday January 20, 2017 @10:29AM (#13444461)
its foolish to believe that applicants should have the right to hide their expectations indefinitely but expect employers to broadcast them to the world.

if you dont want asymmetry in the negotiation process, be a good sport.

Re:Do you prefer Angelist over LinkedIn for hiring? by Terr_ on Friday January 20, 2017 @10:35PM (#13448603)
First you must fix the asymmetry caused by how employers have a much better data for "what the market will bear."

That's the real reason why employers "should" be expected to name the first figure. It makes the relationship less exploitative.

Re:Do you prefer Angelist over LinkedIn for hiring? by 1123581321 on Friday January 20, 2017 @07:42PM (#13448127)
Ideally, neither party would offer meaningless pre-interview/discovery numbers and both would be willing to accept nearly any number that made sense after agreeing on the likely quality of the applicant-candidate fit. In practice, neither of those things are true and an early number from a candidate is treated like a late-stage number should be. It's much easier to leave the number out than to try to fix that.

And as an employer, I'm certainly not required to give a number. "Market rate" is sufficient to start a conversation with a serious applicant.

Re:Do you prefer Angelist over LinkedIn for hiring? by MrLeap on Sunday January 22, 2017 @02:56PM (#13457016)
I assume market rate seafood is going to be overly priced, I assume market rate salaries are going to be middling and uninspiring. I wonder why I assume the phrase "market rate" is a ticket to frown town?
Re:Do you prefer Angelist over LinkedIn for hiring? by baboun on Friday January 20, 2017 @05:31AM (#13442783)
You can set up questions in AngelList I believe, so that applicants have to answer them instead of just saying "I'm interested."