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Re:Don’t Tell Your Friends They’re Lucky by coldtea on Thursday January 19, 2017 @02:01PM (#13438498)
>I suspect that when most people talk about inequality, what they mean is, "a few people are doing really good and a lot of people are doing really bad". If you can lessen or remove the "doing really bad" part, whether through UBI or some other means (progressive taxation to fund other programs, whatever your ideology prefers), then statements of inequality start to mean just "a few people are doing really good" and I think there are far fewer people that are bothered by that.

I'd say the problem with inequality is something else entirely than "some people doing really good" vs "lots of people doing really bad".

It's that there are resources in the world, and some people have way more access to them.

This can hold even when all people are out of poverty: of the potential and resources of the world, still some people could take the lion's share to the exclusion of others, regardless of whether everybody has a house and food on their table.

And this inequality (with the true sense of the word, not mere poverty vs richness) is also related to opportunities and squandered potential (as in: yeah, we all have UBI, but this dumb mega-rich person could pay his way to Harvard, whereas some other with much larger potential -- e.g. smarts, inventiveness, etc-- had to settle for some lesser school, and didn't get as far in their career).

Re:Don’t Tell Your Friends They’re Lucky by thaumaturgy on Thursday January 19, 2017 @02:48PM (#13438888)
There's a scale of ideology here from, "everyone should be guaranteed to get exactly the same as everyone else regardless of luck and effort" to "life should come with no guarantees and everything is down to luck and effort".

It sounds like you're further to the left of that scale than I am, which is fine, except that it's harder to convince people to the right of me on that scale to move that far left.

Sometimes it's better to suggest small changes.